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Posted: September 25 2008 at 12:34

Awesome thanks.

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Posted: September 25 2008 at 07:36

I have the two remastered albums... I'll take a look in a while and see if it says anything. Plus I have Hatwise Choice (signed by Richard Sinclair and Phil Miller Wink

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One of those may say something.

Edited by James - September 25 2008 at 07:37

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Posted: September 25 2008 at 07:33

Thanks for the help Dick! Dean, if you have the time, it would help me a lot if you looked at your vinyl some day. Id very much like to know what it says about the title in the sleeves. Thanks in advance! :)

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Posted: September 25 2008 at 06:35

Dick Heath wrote:

I have a slight feeling the name The Rotter's Club was lifted by H&TN, but having trouble trying to place exactly where. P.G.Wodehouse? The Billy Bunter /Greyfriars stories - Bunter always called his antagonists 'Rotters'? Those Jonas & Co upper middle class (often anti-semetic) detective stories of the 30's?

Gaah!! I know this!! Can't bl

dy remember

.... I'm sure it's on the sleeve notes of one the re-issued seedies - I can't tell until I get home this evening.

What?

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Posted: September 25 2008 at 05:44

I have a slight feeling the name The Rotter's Club was lifted by H&TN, but having trouble trying to place exactly where. P.G.Wodehouse? The Billy Bunter /Greyfriars stories - Bunter always called his antagonists 'Rotters'? Those Jonas & Co upper middle class (often anti-semetic) detective stories of the 30's?

When H&TN issued that album, the title wasn't a real surprise, so it might have been bandied around on TV or the media at that time. A number of Canterbury bands picked up quirky titles based on what would heard around the period, e.g. Soft's Stanley Stamp's Gibbon Catalogue (a pun created by Billy Oddie for I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again*) - you can heard it used on the first side of the first BBC cassette series of that radio show ,about 25 minutes in. Soft 's Soft Weed Factor is a corruption of the title of a bodice-ripping book & best seller of the early 60's The Sot Weed Factor (a story of the early days of Maryland's tobacco trade - I think).

* Graham Bennet's excellent Out-Bloody-Rageous, states 'TV series' - Graham didn't read my notes carefully enough - I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again was a long running radio series and one of the main precursors to Monty Python.

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Posted: September 24 2008 at 21:23

Hi guys, I need your help. Im writing a paper about The Hatfield And The North. What I need to know is, why the guys named their album from 1975, "The Rotter's Club". I know that Jonathan Coe named his novel from 2001 The Rotter's Club as well because he was a huge fan of the band, but I just need to know why The Hatfield And The North gave the album this title. Thank you very much in advance!

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Posted: September 08 2008 at 12:02

Is theStomu Yashmash'Ta Group with Hugh Hopper playing bases by default, Canterbury - or just good Anglo-Japanese jazz fusion (pre-empting Kazumi Watanable playing with Bill Bruford etalsome 20 years later)??? Freedom Is Frightening and Raindog, at last, hit the stands as CD issues next month.

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Posted: September 04 2008 at 14:01

She has to love The Collapso and The Bryden 2-step (for Amphibians). Big%20smile

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Posted: September 04 2008 at 13:41

song_of_copper wrote:

As Pat spotted via another thread, I gave National Health (s/t) a listen. Only heard it a couple of times so far (was listening earlier at work on my ipod. A colleague asked me what I was listening to. "Oh, it's National Health." Cue blank look. "Canterbury scene music!" Cue blanker look. "From the 1970s..." Cue 'You're weird' look... oh well!!). I like it but it's hard to say more than that so far, it's that kind of 'twiddly', pointillistic music that takes a while to resolve itself into its constituent parts in your mind's ear... I love the vocals, though. Smile

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Unfortunately, you'll not find her on Of Queues and Cures, that album only features the suave stylings of John Greaves and a treatise on numinosity from Peter Blegvad.

But both albums are essential! Hope you grow to love them as much as I do. Embarrassed

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Posted: September 04 2008 at 13:37

As Pat spotted via another thread, I gave National Health (s/t) a listen. Only heard it a couple of times so far (was listening earlier at work on my ipod. A colleague asked me what I was listening to. "Oh, it's National Health." Cue blank look. "Canterbury scene music!" Cue blanker look. "From the 1970s..." Cue 'You're weird' look... oh well!!). I like it but it's hard to say more than that so far, it's that kind of 'twiddly', pointillistic music that takes a while to resolve itself into its constituent parts in your mind's ear... I love the vocals, though. Smile

(The young squires of PA have found me on Last.fm and keep telling me to hear Soft Machine. All in good time, boys... Tongue

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Edited by song_of_copper - September 04 2008 at 13:38

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:52

I only have one space free... Patrick is likely to get in first... I'll try and make another space free, one moment!

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:48

song_of_copper wrote:

NaturalScience wrote:

Also, your inbox is full. Embarrassed

Yes, it is! Again Pat and I are inextricably linked across space/time. We both try to send James a PM at the same time... Wacko

We might be the subject of a new quantum entanglement experiment LOL

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:45

NaturalScience wrote:

Also, your inbox is full. Embarrassed

Yes, it is! Again Pat and I are inextricably linked across space/time. We both try to send James a PM at the same time... Wacko

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:35

song_of_copper wrote:

James wrote:

Yes I know but I have Complete already. Wink

Uh, is your name Melissa...? Confused

Only at weekends. Wink

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:35

James wrote:

NaturalScience wrote:

James wrote:

Whilst Kultivator would be an even better purchase. Why?

Because you get that National Health, Soft Heap, Hatfield and the North, In Cahoots sound but with the added bonus of a Zeuhl feel as well.

The best of both worlds!

And their only album Barndomens Stigar has been recently remastered and is available from Wayside Music (albeit on the pricey side).

Wink

As much as I am looking forward to Kultivator, everyone needs NH in their collection, and especially Melissa.

Yes I know but I have Complete already. Wink

That's what I recommend for Melissa.

Also, your inbox is full. Embarrassed

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:35

James wrote:

NaturalScience wrote:

As much as I am looking forward to Kultivator, everyone needs NH in their collection, and especially Melissa.

Yes I know but I have Complete already. Wink

Uh, is your name Melissa...? Confused

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:30

NaturalScience wrote:

As much as I am looking forward to Kultivator, everyone needs NH in their collection, and especially Melissa.

Yes I know but I have Complete already. Wink

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:28

As much as I am looking forward to Kultivator, everyone needs NH in their collection, and especially Melissa.

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:23

Whilst Kultivator would be an even better purchase. Why?

Because you get that National Health, Soft Heap, Hatfield and the North, In Cahoots sound but with the added bonus of a Zeuhl feel as well.

The best of both worlds!

And their only album Barndomens Stigar has been recently remastered and is available from Wayside Music (albeit on the pricey side).

Wink

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Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:22

song_of_copper wrote:

NaturalScience wrote:

song_of_copper wrote:

It took a while, but I've fallen in love with Hatfield and the North. Hug

This puts such a big smile on my face. Big%20smile

And yet, I think you'll love National Health even better.

Haha. I thought it would, Pat. LOL

I'd actually thought National Health might be my next experiment, having read that excellent Chameleon blog entry! I'll let you know what I think... Smile

Please do - great to see this thread get resurrected from time to time.