Do you like Never Mind the Bollocks?

At least Lydon appreciated Peter Hammill enough to name-check him, other than that I don't care for the Sex Pistols.

^ modern punk eh ... I've been teaching some young teens how to play songs by Patent Pending, they are a funny band with a guy in a whale mascot costume on stage with them dancing around etc, sarcastic goofy teen humor like that still cracks me up.

Edited by Easy Money - February 12 2009 at 12:38

NaturalScience wrote: Easy Money wrote: For the record: punk didn't kill prog-rock. It did not, but it made it a hell of lot more difficult to start a prog band circa 1977 than it was 6 or 7 years prior - the record companies wanted nothing to do with that kind of music.  And really, prog was never even killed anyway as far as I'm concerned, it just went more underground and never regained the sort of commercial success it (i.e. the big name groups) enjoyed throughout most of the 1970s.

Yeah, there is a lot of truth to that, but what I was trying to say was that all my old favorite bands began to loose their creative spark. I remember seeing ELP Works tour and just being disgusted, not because of the music but by the fact that they obviously didn't care anymore and were just going through the motions.

Same thing with Genesis after Hacket split. I had just seen them a year or two earlier with Bruford and they were incredible, but soon after that their shows were lifeless.

Fripp was the only old favorite that wasn't 'phoning it in'. Meanwhile I saw Black Flag at a small club and rock was alive and well again and very creative and energetic. It didn't hurt that Black Flag's music had obvious King Crimson, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath influences.

Anyway, I didn't mean to get off subject here, let's not have another boring debate about prog and punk, that has been done to death on this site many times.

Edited by Easy Money - February 12 2009 at 19:19

Punk is quite combineable with prog and I don't hate it like I used to a long time ago but i just don't dig the Sex Pistols/Clash (they sound pretty similar to me) sound... I like some old hardcore punk like Minor Threat or Black Flag though. And Ramones are ok.

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The whole Slane DVD is masterliness


Edited by The Miracle - February 12 2009 at 12:01

Easy Money wrote: For the record: punk didn't kill prog-rock.

It did not, but it made it a hell of lot more difficult to start a prog band circa 1977 than it was 6 or 7 years prior - the record companies wanted nothing to do with that kind of music.  And really, prog was never even killed anyway as far as I'm concerned, it just went more underground and never regained the sort of commercial success it (i.e. the big name groups) enjoyed throughout most of the 1970s.

Rocktopus wrote: I've asked this before: Did he audition for Henry Cow, ?

Also these results are really pleasantly surprising.

mystic fred wrote: Though many have an affection for many of the bands during this period, i feel Punk Rock became an inevitable stain on our music history page

This really only works if you hate all alternative/indie music, since a great deal of it is influenced by punk.  Punk changed music, and vastly for the better.

I always liked it. I've read numerous critiques by idiot journalists who harp on about it's cultural significance, in a similar way they did over Nirvanas 'Nevermind' (which is clearly musically superior)

Lets not lose grip of the rope here; it's a ramshackle collection of simplistic rock 'n' roll songs, by a gang of virtually talentless kids. Lets take it for what it is; a bit of fun.

Logan wrote: Incidentally, I like this album picks list that Johnny Rotten (John Lydon) came up with for an interview  (before anyone brings up his "I hate Pink Floyd" shirt), which includes Bowie, Peter Hammill, Captain Beefheart, John Cale, Third Ear Band, and Can.

I've asked this before: Did he audition for Henry Cow, or have I just dreamt it ( I know he was a fan)?

And yes, I like Never Mind the Bollocks. The only pure punkalbum I've genuinely cared for. Haven't listened to it in years, though. John Lydon was brilliant, and artisically on a different level than the rest of the group. He proved that with PIL.

Never could stand The Ramones, and I don't consider them the same thing. If any punks destroyed music or whatever (which they didn't), it would have to be them. From that "school" I think The Misfits were great fun.