LSD and PA members?

Harkmark wrote: Quote MysticFred: "Drugs are for sick people" This is IMO a very immature statement. How old are you?

Quote MysticFred: "Drugs are for sick people"

This is IMO a very immature statement. How old are you?
I agree that to some people light drugs might be unhealthy and could cause mental problems. But this kind of categorical statements gets you nowhere, and I don't think you will convince any of the young people around here with them either.





Edited by Harkmark - August 23 2006 at 08:06

mystic fred wrote: nothing to do with alchohol, oliver, i'm talking about DRUGS! moderate amounts of alchohol can be beneficial, but drugs are for sick people. i recently read cannabis can relieve the symptoms of MS sufferers which would be fine for them, but healthy people taking drugs for experimentation is ludicrously stupid......agree?

nothing to do with alchohol, oliver, i'm talking about DRUGS! moderate amounts of alchohol can be beneficial, but drugs are for sick people. i recently read cannabis can relieve the symptoms of MS sufferers which would be fine for them, but healthy people taking drugs for experimentation is ludicrously stupid......agree?

So you never drink alcohol?

That's very true. Another issue with products such as "Acid" is that you're not sure of what you get.

Whereas with mush or weed, you know what it is.

Certif1ed wrote: I've lost count, but the Stonehenge festivals would not have been the same without the many, many cups of mushroom tea      However, I have witnessed a few acid casualties in my time - so it's important to bear in mind that this stuff is not for everyone and that there are dangers. It depends entirely on you, your physical and mental makeup, mood and surroundings. It's a game of Russian Roulette with your mind - so play away, if you feel the urge - but always respectfully. It's not like having a few beers with your mates down the pub.

Blacksword wrote: Used it a lot in the early 90's. Excellent drug, until you have a bad trip, after that it never feels the same again. Took my last one about ten years ago. Advice to anyone considering it. Dont bother. I suffered bad depression as a result my lifestyle at the time, and LSD was a big factor in that.

Syzygy wrote: Sound advice. A friend of mine suffered a breakdown after tripping almost daily for several months (though I'm pleased to say he made a full recovery) and I've been with a few people who were having bad trips - not funny at all ... my only 'bad trip' was an ecstasy pill that went horribly wrong, not a experience I wish to repeat. If you do experiment with the stuff, remember that you never know how strong it is until it's in your system, and once it's in there you'll be under the influence for 8 - 12 hours and experiencing the after effects for 2 - 3 days. A bad trip can take days to get over if you're lucky.

I've not done acid since about '86 or '87; I always enjoyed it & had some great times (especially at gigs) - however, I do remember I stopped doing it as I'd never had a bad trip, but had been in several situations trying to talk down friends who were having just such an experience. Trying to calm them down was scary enough, but their later descriptions of how they felt at the time were downright terrifying at times - hence, I quit while I was 'ahead'.

So there you have it - descriptions from 4 separate people; some good, some bad. Sure, you'll get bad experiences as well with legal drugs like alcohol (one of the most dangerous drugs available), but at least with alcohol you can moderate your consumption, and you know what you're taking.

This is not the case with chemical substances such as LSD - you could get a mild trip & enjoy it, or you could go to the far end of the scale & regret it for a long time (unlikely, but all too possible).

Bottom line (for me, at least) - experimentation is fine, moderation in all things, but if in any doubt DON'T DO IT.
    
    

Edited by Jim Garten - August 23 2006 at 07:34

maani wrote: I would probably frighten you with my history.  Suffice to say that from 1971 to 1982, I did LSD perhaps 1,000 times or more (that's a conservative estimate).  And that's not counting the number of times I did 'shrooms or mescaline.   My most intense periods were from the middle of my sophomore year to the middle of my senior year in high school (when I tripped virtually every other day) and from September 1979 to December 1980, when I tripped two or three times a week.   Note that, despite my tripping for two years in high school, I had the highest sophomore average in the history of the school, maintained a B+ average or better, and graduated in the top 50 of a class of almost 350.  And despite my nearly continual tripping for 11 years, I had only three truly "bad" trips and have never had a single flashback.   I have actually considered writing a book about my experiences with drugs, not only because they are long and intense, but because I survived with nary a "scratch"; as far as I am aware, only my long- and short-term memory was affected, and even these only minorly.   Finally, I am neither proud nor ashamed of my experiences, nor do I condone the use of drugs willy-nilly.  They are not for everyone, and not everyone is ready - physically, psychologically, emotionally, intellectually, etc. - for the experience.  Having said that, I have no question whatsoever that my own personal experiences with them were positive overall. >>>>   Peace.

^ Didn't Viking berserks eat some mushrooms in order to get the battle frenzy?  

Actually, all these nice vegetal had not the smallest drawback on my memory! (except short-term memory at the moment i'm very stoned) i've got an elephant's memory.

This is a rough aproximation, of course. Maybe 1000 less or 1000 more....