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sleeper 
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 Posted: February 02 2013 at 06:35 |
 aapatsos wrote:
sleeper wrote:
aapatsos wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Excellent work Andy. If there's one big shock with this list, it's that absolutley no Prog Metal of any description makes the top 10. Is Dream Theater and Opeth the only bands people will take note of? That would be really disappointing.
Didn't get many albums last year, but was definitely hoping my top 2, To-Mera and Between the Buried and Me, would have ended up higher on the list, two exceptional albums there.
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I enjoyed To-Mera, really good album, typical high standards but Utopia was further up for me  - yes no love for PM this year, even Threshold (good album) was lower than 15th...
We'll make it up next year 
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Utopia?
I was quite disappointed with the Threshold album, not bad but I was expecting much better after 5 years, the Headspace album was much better and so was Wilson's performance on it I felt.
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Andy, check Distorted Harmony's debut (Utopia)
It actually felt a bit the other way around to me, MoP being better than the loooong Headspace album (still good though) - but yeah I can understand why you were not impressed, it was too 'safe'
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I'm not sure "safe" is quite the word. I remember discussing this with Jared some years ago, Threshold arent likely to surprise but their song writing/composition is usually very strong regardless. It just wasn't as strong as usual for me. Sadly money's tighter these days, I can't get anywhere near as many albums now as I used too, so theres a lot that I want that I've just had to pass on.
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aapatsos
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 04:09 |
sleeper wrote:
aapatsos wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Excellent work Andy. If there's one big shock with this list, it's that absolutley no Prog Metal of any description makes the top 10. Is Dream Theater and Opeth the only bands people will take note of? That would be really disappointing.
Didn't get many albums last year, but was definitely hoping my top 2, To-Mera and Between the Buried and Me, would have ended up higher on the list, two exceptional albums there.
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I enjoyed To-Mera, really good album, typical high standards but Utopia was further up for me - yes no love for PM this year, even Threshold (good album) was lower than 15th...
We'll make it up next year
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Utopia?
I was quite disappointed with the Threshold album, not bad but I was expecting much better after 5 years, the Headspace album was much better and so was Wilson's performance on it I felt.
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Andy, check Distorted Harmony's debut (Utopia) It actually felt a bit the other way around to me, MoP being better than the loooong Headspace album (still good though) - but yeah I can understand why you were not impressed, it was too 'safe'
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 04:02 |
Storm Corrosion is another popular album but still not great enough for top 10. Overall though a pleasing result, but popularity reigns supremem in most cases and bands like Shadow Circus that are underrated go way down the list.
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Eria Tarka
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 03:28 |
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Nice to see Noctourniquet so high!
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 03:19 |
Well it turned out OK and I like Anglagard even if it didnt get in my top 10
I am pleased to see Motorpsycho there perhaps should have won it
But Mars Volta didnt deserve it really - just a popular band
Nice to see Rush and the wonderful album by Flower Kings!
Excelelnt job!
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 03:17 |
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Woo, my favorite (and best-placing choice overall) made #15! Didn't hear any of the top 10 this time round.
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Gallifrey
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Posted: February 02 2013 at 01:57 |
60th for Iamthemorning 
If the poll was taken in a few months time, I'd expect it to be higher, as it's beginning to get the popularity it deserves (currently 3rd on the 2012 charts)
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 20:27 |
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7th for Noctourniquet eh? Not bad.  |
You needn't have worried. My Hawkwind ended up at a respectable #104, too.
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sleeper
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 19:35 |
aapatsos wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Excellent work Andy. If there's one big shock with this list, it's that absolutley no Prog Metal of any description makes the top 10. Is Dream Theater and Opeth the only bands people will take note of? That would be really disappointing.
Didn't get many albums last year, but was definitely hoping my top 2, To-Mera and Between the Buried and Me, would have ended up higher on the list, two exceptional albums there.
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I enjoyed To-Mera, really good album, typical high standards but Utopia was further up for me - yes no love for PM this year, even Threshold (good album) was lower than 15th...
We'll make it up next year
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Utopia? I was quite disappointed with the Threshold album, not bad but I was expecting much better after 5 years, the Headspace album was much better and so was Wilson's performance on it I felt.
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aapatsos
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 18:25 |
sleeper wrote:
Excellent work Andy. If there's one big shock with this list, it's that absolutley no Prog Metal of any description makes the top 10. Is Dream Theater and Opeth the only bands people will take note of? That would be really disappointing.
Didn't get many albums last year, but was definitely hoping my top 2, To-Mera and Between the Buried and Me, would have ended up higher on the list, two exceptional albums there.
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I enjoyed To-Mera, really good album, typical high standards but Utopia was further up for me - yes no love for PM this year, even Threshold (good album) was lower than 15th... We'll make it up next year
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 18:21 |
7th for Noctourniquet eh? Not bad.
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 17:33 |
Well done again, Andy!  I was very glad to see at least 3 of my picks in the top 10. It was also great to see The Mars Volta up there as well, even though they were not on my list. It was a pity that Dead Can Dance and God Speed You! Black Emporer, did not feature a little higher, but I can live with it! I really enjoyed the poll
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 17:24 |
Great work Andy!  The top ten turned out pretty much the way I figured it would. At least two of mine got in there.
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sleeper
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 17:12 |
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Excellent work Andy. If there's one big shock with this list, it's that absolutley no Prog Metal of any description makes the top 10. Is Dream Theater and Opeth the only bands people will take note of? That would be really disappointing.
Didn't get many albums last year, but was definitely hoping my top 2, To-Mera and Between the Buried and Me, would have ended up higher on the list, two exceptional albums there.
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lazland
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 16:49 |
Warthur wrote:
Wow, what a list! I can't say I'm surprised to see Anglagard top the list out - they were my #2 pick after Final Conflict's Return of the Artisan (which I'm glad to see at least tied for #76) - but I'm thrilled to see Motorpsycho do so well too, they really deserve it.
lazland wrote:
This is a poll like all others, a snapshot of opinion amongst a select group of people, and not necessarily representative of the whole community who love prog, so should not be taken all that seriously. It is interesting. It is informative. It will lead to debate. I really stopped taking a great deal of notice of such things some years ago, probably about the time I realised that Marillion would never win a critics poll again |
I'd say that Marillion are #14 this year for two reasons: firstly, STCBM was really, really good. Secondly, they had an incredible amount of competition. I dare say that if you pitch STCBM against any other recent year it'd do as well and would probably do better than it managed this time.
But yeah, always worth taking these things in a pinch of salt. Personally I'd be interested in rerunning the poll in 5 years or so to see what albums have stood the test of time. |
I agree wholeheartedly with all these points, especially if we rerun the poll at a later point. The results would definitely be different. I might repeat here that this is not to detract from the hard work Andy puts into all of this, it is just the nature of such opinion snapshots.
I could also say that I am very much biased in favour of Marillion, although I did put STCBM behind Sylvan and Ioearth in my contribution.
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 16:42 |
Wow, what a list! I can't say I'm surprised to see Anglagard top the list out - they were my #2 pick after Final Conflict's Return of the Artisan (which I'm glad to see at least tied for #76) - but I'm thrilled to see Motorpsycho do so well too, they really deserve it.
lazland wrote:
This is a poll like all others, a snapshot of opinion amongst a select group of people, and not necessarily representative of the whole community who love prog, so should not be taken all that seriously. It is interesting. It is informative. It will lead to debate. I really stopped taking a great deal of notice of such things some years ago, probably about the time I realised that Marillion would never win a critics poll again |
I'd say that Marillion are #14 this year for two reasons: firstly, STCBM was really, really good. Secondly, they had an incredible amount of competition. I dare say that if you pitch STCBM against any other recent year it'd do as well and would probably do better than it managed this time.
But yeah, always worth taking these things in a pinch of salt. Personally I'd be interested in rerunning the poll in 5 years or so to see what albums have stood the test of time.
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lazland
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 16:30 |
Anthony H. wrote:
lazland wrote:
Anthony H. wrote:
Clockwork Angels is the only album I'm not pleased to see there. I'm actually really dissapointed that it is, particularly since it beat Marillion and Godspeed. I don't understand that in the slightest.
But an absolutely fantastic list overall! Thanks for your hard work, Andy. And thanks for the quote, as well! |
Clockwork Angels is the only Rush album I do not own. I have to say that I really did not enjoy the tracks I heard on the radio or streaming, and I think I would hate it if I purchased it, something I thought I would never say about a Rush album. |
It's nearly outrageous how much better Sounds That Can't Be Made is than Clockwork Angels. STCBM really should have made it on the list. |
E-Dub (Eric), who I really miss around here, has made the point on the Marillion appreciation thread that he doesn't come here too often those days because of an impression that there is an inherent bias against h era Marillion. I think he has a point personally.
Edited by lazland - February 01 2013 at 16:33
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 16:21 |
lazland wrote:
Anthony H. wrote:
Clockwork Angels is the only album I'm not pleased to see there. I'm actually really dissapointed that it is, particularly since it beat Marillion and Godspeed. I don't understand that in the slightest.
But an absolutely fantastic list overall! Thanks for your hard work, Andy. And thanks for the quote, as well! |
Clockwork Angels is the only Rush album I do not own. I have to say that I really did not enjoy the tracks I heard on the radio or streaming, and I think I would hate it if I purchased it, something I thought I would never say about a Rush album. |
It's nearly outrageous how much better Sounds That Can't Be Made is than Clockwork Angels. STCBM really should have made it on the list.
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 16:18 |
Yay. One of my albums is last on the list!
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lazland
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Posted: February 01 2013 at 16:11 |
Anthony H. wrote:
Clockwork Angels is the only album I'm not pleased to see there. I'm actually really dissapointed that it is, particularly since it beat Marillion and Godspeed. I don't understand that in the slightest.
But an absolutely fantastic list overall! Thanks for your hard work, Andy. And thanks for the quote, as well! |
Clockwork Angels is the only Rush album I do not own. I have to say that I really did not enjoy the tracks I heard on the radio or streaming, and I think I would hate it if I purchased it, something I thought I would never say about a Rush album.
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