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oliverstoned 
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 Posted: August 23 2006 at 06:24 |
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I would probably frighten you with my history. Suffice to say that from 1971 to 1982, I did LSD perhaps 1,000 times or more (that's a conservative estimate). And that's not counting the number of times I did 'shrooms or mescaline.
My most intense periods were from the middle of my sophomore year to the middle of my senior year in high school (when I tripped virtually every other day) and from September 1979 to December 1980, when I tripped two or three times a week.
Note that, despite my tripping for two years in high school, I had the highest sophomore average in the history of the school, maintained a B+ average or better, and graduated in the top 50 of a class of almost 350. And despite my nearly continual tripping for 11 years, I had only three truly "bad" trips and have never had a single flashback.
I have actually considered writing a book about my experiences with drugs, not only because they are long and intense, but because I survived with nary a "scratch"; as far as I am aware, only my long- and short-term memory was affected, and even these only minorly.
Finally, I am neither proud nor ashamed of my experiences, nor do I condone the use of drugs willy-nilly. They are not for everyone, and not everyone is ready - physically, psychologically, emotionally, intellectually, etc. - for the experience. Having said that, I have no question whatsoever that my own personal experiences with them were positive overall.
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Impressive!
I'm a little player compared to you, with my 100 mush trips, 5 LSA trips, 1 San pedro and 15000 joints!
Instead of trying yourself, i can recommend you a nice reading: LSD medical experiences leaded by Stanislas Grof:
Edited by oliverstoned - August 23 2006 at 06:24
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Fun, but I'm not about to recommend it to anyone.
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Posted: August 23 2006 at 04:18 |
I once drank a lager shandy 
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Posted: August 23 2006 at 03:43 |
I've lost count, but the Stonehenge festivals would not have been the same without the many, many cups of mushroom tea 
However, I have witnessed a few acid casualties in my time - so it's important to bear in mind that this stuff is not for everyone and that there are dangers. It depends entirely on you, your physical and mental makeup, mood and surroundings.
It's a game of Russian Roulette with your mind - so play away, if you feel the urge - but always respectfully. It's not like having a few beers with your mates down the pub.
Edited by Certif1ed - August 23 2006 at 03:47
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Posted: August 23 2006 at 00:47 |
maani wrote:
I would probably frighten you with my history. Suffice to say that from 1971 to 1982, I did LSD perhaps 1,000 times or more (that's a conservative estimate). And that's not counting the number of times I did 'shrooms or mescaline.
My most intense periods were from the middle of my sophomore year to the middle of my senior year in high school (when I tripped virtually every other day) and from September 1979 to December 1980, when I tripped two or three times a week.
Note that, despite my tripping for two years in high school, I had the highest sophomore average in the history of the school, maintained a B+ average or better, and graduated in the top 50 of a class of almost 350. And despite my nearly continual tripping for 11 years, I had only three truly "bad" trips and have never had a single flashback.
I have actually considered writing a book about my experiences with drugs, not only because they are long and intense, but because I survived with nary a "scratch"; as far as I am aware, only my long- and short-term memory was affected, and even these only minorly.
Finally, I am neither proud nor ashamed of my experiences, nor do I condone the use of drugs willy-nilly. They are not for everyone, and not everyone is ready - physically, psychologically, emotionally, intellectually, etc. - for the experience. Having said that, I have no question whatsoever that my own personal experiences with them were positive overall.
Peace. |
wow, I saw that you posted a long message and expected a sermon.
That is very interesting that you were successful despite what you've done.
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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maani
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Posted: August 22 2006 at 22:14 |
I would probably frighten you with my history. Suffice to say that from 1971 to 1982, I did LSD perhaps 1,000 times or more (that's a conservative estimate). And that's not counting the number of times I did 'shrooms or mescaline.
My most intense periods were from the middle of my sophomore year to the middle of my senior year in high school (when I tripped virtually every other day) and from September 1979 to December 1980, when I tripped two or three times a week.
Note that, despite my tripping for two years in high school, I had the highest sophomore average in the history of the school, maintained a B+ average or better, and graduated in the top 50 of a class of almost 350. And despite my nearly continual tripping for 11 years, I had only three truly "bad" trips and have never had a single flashback.
I have actually considered writing a book about my experiences with drugs, not only because they are long and intense, but because I survived with nary a "scratch"; as far as I am aware, only my long- and short-term memory was affected, and even these only minorly.
Finally, I am neither proud nor ashamed of my experiences, nor do I condone the use of drugs willy-nilly. They are not for everyone, and not everyone is ready - physically, psychologically, emotionally, intellectually, etc. - for the experience. Having said that, I have no question whatsoever that my own personal experiences with them were positive overall.
Peace.
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Posted: August 22 2006 at 16:37 |
Philéas wrote:
Regarding stimulants, I won't mess about with anything worse than caffeine.
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Why should you anyway? Like I always said, Caffeine is the best drug avaible. It doesn't mess your body, it's good, easy to get, not costy, and the best drug to do music on. You are so energic and focused, you can really drain the creativity out of your mind.
Of course, a lot of coffee and some pot is also great! Doesn't maes better music, but the jam session sure is funnier! 
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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Borealis
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Posted: August 22 2006 at 16:33 |
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I think everyone should, I'd even says need, to do mushroom once in their life. The first time is special, you come to a mental state that is unique are unbelievable. The good part isn't the hallucination or other sensory effect (although they are awesome ), it really is the 'way you think' are percieve everything for the few hours comming. I don't know, you may avoid this drug from the rest of your life after, but one time is sure something to do.
I tried to jam with friends on shrooms once this summer, and it has been one of the strangest experience I did... On the 'peak' of my confusion, I just had lost my perception of music! It was impossible to creat anything I could like... Of course, an hour later, I was okay and ready for 50 minutes + improvisations, who appeared to some of our bests!...
As for LSD, I don't know if I want ot try it... It scares me, but I might be missing something huge.
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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Philéas
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Posted: August 22 2006 at 14:29 |
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I have considered it, but I haven't yet done anything else than weed.
I'm not entirely sure if I'm going to try LSD, considering the many
dangers of it. After reading through this topic, mushrooms seem to be a
better alternative.
Regarding stimulants, I won't mess about with anything worse than caffeine. A friend of mine did coke though.
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Posted: August 22 2006 at 12:19 |
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43 times from October 1990 to January 1993 ... one of the great loves of my life ... but coincidentally overlaps neatly with that time I dropped out of college
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
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oliverstoned
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Posted: August 22 2006 at 04:06 |
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Actually, my friends i and were feeling really secure on Ummaguma (studio album), like we were back to the foetal state (that's a classic case of intra uterine regression).
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Posted: August 21 2006 at 23:07 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Rust wrote:
Bastille Dude wrote:
the man machine wrote:
i dont think i will ever try it , i like to be under control , i do love getting baked about once a week though because most of the time i feel under control. cannabis isnt usually halucinagenic |
I think thats one of the reasons why I fear doing psychedelics now, I don't like the feeling of not being in control. Even herb has some negative effects on me now, makes me paranoid and I can't handle paranoia. I'm well past my frat boy beer drinking days so I only drink beer because I really enjoy the taste of a good beer, I don't drink to get drunk. Nothing is worse than a hangover.Here's a question for those that have indulged in psychedelics, When listening to music do you ever have a flash or flashback? for example I listen to psychedelic music with lots of fuzzed out guitar, Whenever I hear that fuzzed out guitar tone I have a quick flash. Not the kind of flashback where you go crazy and jump out of windows, but just a quick flash of memory of being on a trip. |
I listened to the Atom Heart Mother Suite on shrooms once. God, that song never seemed so long and exciting in my entire life. When I listen to the song now, I remember what I was thinking during the trip, but I have not regained that feeling yet.
I have only done shrooms a few times, (Cubensis), and I like them enough to do them again, in moderation!
I do plan on trying LSD once, once I've moved out and have nothing in life that can possibly make me have a bad trip. |
I made many mush trips on Ummagumma studio album -among others- and it was awesome.
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My next shroom trip, I will experiment past the happy Yes songs, and into the more dangerous teritorry, like Ummagumma. I would never even think of tripping on LSD to Pink Floyd, their stuff is scary enough on shrooms.
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We got to pump the stuff to make us tough
from the heart
Its astart
What we need is awareness we cant get careless
Mental self defensive fitness
Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be
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Posted: August 21 2006 at 20:13 |
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I've been told that Shroom trips are shorter than Acid's. Is it true?
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Yes, thankfully. That's one of the bad things about acid IMO, that it lasts so long that you get so mentally (and physically) drained.
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Posted: August 21 2006 at 19:16 |
chamberry wrote:
I've been told that Shroom trips are shorter than Acid's. Is it true? |
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Posted: August 21 2006 at 18:21 |
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I've been told that Shroom trips are shorter than Acid's. Is it true?
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oliverstoned
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Posted: August 21 2006 at 11:59 |
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Yes, geometric figures and hallucinations are just the iceberg's visible part. The real trip is beyong words.
"Excellent drug, until you have a bad trip, after that it never feels the same again."
That's very true. It's like your astral body is altered and the fear will come back everytime you'll do a trip again.
That's why you must feel good when you do it.
Mushrooms are less dangerous (and less potent), however.
Edited by oliverstoned - August 21 2006 at 12:04
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Posted: August 21 2006 at 11:54 |
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Used it a lot in the early 90's. Excellent drug, until you have a bad trip, after that it never feels the same again. Took my last one about ten years ago.
Advice to anyone considering it. Dont bother. I suffered bad depression as a result my lifestyle at the time, and LSD was a big factor in that. |
 Sound advice. A friend of mine suffered a breakdown after tripping almost daily for several months (though I'm pleased to say he made a full recovery) and I've been with a few people who were having bad trips - not funny at all ... my only 'bad trip' was an ecstasy pill that went horribly wrong, not a experience I wish to repeat. If you do experiment with the stuff, remember that you never know how strong it is until it's in your system, and once it's in there you'll be under the influence for 8 - 12 hours and experiencing the after effects for 2 - 3 days. A bad trip can take days to get over if you're lucky.
I have taken acid, the last time about 10 years ago, and I had some interesting times on it. To clear up a common misconception: although you do experience some visual effects - I've seen walls 'breathing', rainbows emerging from teacups, spinning discs on the walls, moving objects leaving traces behind them in the air, auras around people and objects - neither I nor anybody I know has ever had the kind of "Then I saw John Wayne in a pink bikini playing the piano on an elephant's back in my fridge" hallucination that some people seem to expect. The visuals tended to occur early on in the trip, following which I achieved a deep understanding of the appleness of an apple, the patterns in the carpet or (on one memorable occasion) Picasso and Braque's synthetic cubism from about 1912 - 14, for instance the famous portrait of Ambrose Voillard. I didn't find that it did much for my perception of music - weed and shrooms are for more effective for me - but it did for some of my friends. I also couldn't watch TV while tripping - I was too aware of the flickering image - and I became very sensitive to light and to sudden changes in temperature.
For the benefit of any Beatles fans, Lucy In The Sky isn't a very good musical evocation of a trip, but She Said, Rain and Strawberry Fields capture the experience to a T. For Floyd Fans, most of Syd's songs on Piper give a good idea of what a trip can be like, particularly Scarecrow and Matilda Mother, but Syd's solo work shows what the after effects can be like.
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Posted: August 21 2006 at 11:38 |
man@arms wrote:
I'm mainly a pot-head and beer drinker, but I have dropped acid several times (and loved it) and have taken ecstasy (also loved). I used to be open to trying almost anything, but work and family have gotten in the way of that. Now it's just pot and only when the funds allow. |
Ecstasy??  I'm high on life while sober, so I really don't need drugs.  Beside, I would never consider doing anything more "hardcore" than weed (which isn't bad anyway) 
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Posted: August 21 2006 at 11:29 |
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The Flesh of gods is free...you just have to pick it.
Edited by oliverstoned - August 21 2006 at 11:31
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Posted: August 21 2006 at 11:21 |
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I'm mainly a pot-head and beer drinker, but I have dropped acid several times (and loved it) and have taken ecstasy (also loved). I used to be open to trying almost anything, but work and family have gotten in the way of that. Now it's just pot and only when the funds allow.
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