The Atheist - Agnostic - Non religious thread

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: I know Bill Reilly is a jerk, but even jerks have the right to express their opinions. Now David Silverman is a jerk of worst kind (And an ignorant, because instead of replying why the tides exist, he answered "I don't know but it's not a magic man in the sky"). He is accusing all religions of being scammers in a billboard paid for him, and if he can't prove why he posted "ALL RELIGIONS ARE SCAMS", he will be facing (I believe already is) several sues (and will loose them), because accusing somebody of a crime without evidence, is a crime and a scam is a fraud. His reply was worst, he even said "I know that religious leaders know religion is a scam", he was asked how can you affirm this and he replied "I don't know, but I am sure they know" Iván I seriously doubt he loses a legal case.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 07 2011 at 10:32

Padraic wrote: I can't be arsed to view the video clip....but what is this about tides?  I thought it was well known that the gravitational forces exerted by the moon (among other things) caused tides.

He says that "The tides go in, the tides go out" (shouldn't use quotes the wording might be different like tide comes in but you get the idea). He says Atheists can't explain this.

I'm assuming that he knows that the moon causes tides. I think he's making some sort of modified watchmaker's argument. I think he's saying that the perceived order and balance in the universe can't be explained by atheists.

I hope anyway.

I can't be arsed to view the video clip....but what is this about tides?  I thought it was well known that the gravitational forces exerted by the moon (among other things) caused tides.

stonebeard wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:   Funny, I would proibably not agree with the religious guy's arguments, but hiding what he says and making mockery of his beliefs only shows fear and disrespect. Iván Disrespect, of course. No fear there, though, brah.

Padraic wrote: Dean wrote: ^ as a  percentage of total volume there isn't a huge amount of water on earth - less than half a percent as I recall. All water anywhere in the solar system proves is the existance of chemistry.  By my crude calculations, 0.1196%.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Total volume doesn't really matter though.

Dean wrote: ^ as a  percentage of total volume there isn't a huge amount of water on earth - less than half a percent as I recall. All water anywhere in the solar system proves is the existance of chemistry.

I'm at work now, but I can't wait to hear the reasoning behind that one when I get home. 

This reminds me of a story actually.

Two kids that I worked with over the summer would always argue over the existence of God. The one was an agnostic and the other was some sort of Baptist. I never could remember the exact denomination. I would stay out of it because it's pretty pointless, I don't have a clear side, and I actually like to do my job well instead of goofing off.

The religious kid said one time that observations of Mars proved the existence of God. With my interested piqued I asked for details. He said that we know that after the great flood, God blew all of the water that he used to flood the Earth on to Mars. Since they discovered ice on Mars, and man would have had no way of knowing it was there before recently, this proves that God exists.

I tried to explain to him how this doesn't prove anything of the sort. He didn't really seem to understand that there could be a million other causes for the ice's existence and the story of God placing the water there.

I got fed up with trying to teach him a lesson so I told him that the ice on Mars is actually frozen carbon dioxide and not water.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: Funny, I would proibably not agree with the religious guy's arguments, but hiding what he says and making mockery of his beliefs only shows fear and disrespect. Iván