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Chris S ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
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...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18572 |
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Hmmmm ... progressive disco? ... is that the one where we dance and lose weight?
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 18036 |
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Ohh and BTW..the disco reference, that completely shot you outta the water and maybe this site...at least for awhile
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18572 |
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Hi,
I think that you are superimposing your own tastes onto a band ... you prefer this or that type of drumming and not Phil's ... and in the end, this a problem, when we're trying to define music ... we think, and believe, that only this or that can be had or done, and you just did the same thing with the drumming. While not exactly progressive, you might check Keith Moon, who was "cymbalistic" to say the least ... and he is by far one of the best rock drummers ever.
It has to do with the music ... and if the drummer can only keep time, I usually joke, get a metronome, it's cheaper and doesn't talk back at you! ... and you don't have to put up with ego's! And you might even find some music amidst it all ... ! It's what the experimenting 60's and 70's were about ... and you are superimposing a regiment that did not belong there at all!
And the drumming in those days, was NOT as metronomic as it is today, and was much more centered on the quality and feeling of the moment, than it was around the timing of the music itself ... today's drummers have all the "time" in their snare drum, and nothing else ... and that is not exactly representative of the word "music".
You are correct in the keyboard area ... and it is one of my complaints ... ELP and Genesis are the darlings and such because of keyboards, but Guru Guru and Incredible String Band are not as important, and they are far more progressive and adventurous than both of those bands ... but they will not get the listen because so many of us are stuck on that stupid keyboard mode ... and specially when it has that analog sound, or that hammond sound in it! Heck, to the shame of it all, ISB is rumored to have been booed when they were at Woodstock and apparently did a part of their stage show from "U" ... which goes to tell you that kids were too stoned to enjoy anything except the hits ... is that any different than what you are doing here?
Be careful when you discuss an instrument. Check out Carl Palmer ... it's not all metronomic, but it is very mechanical and well defined. Check out early KC in the early days ... it's not quite metronomic ... and it has uncanny touches to help accentuate the lyrics and the singing, which a lot of modern bands are not capable of doing ... Edited by moshkito - January 05 2011 at 15:54 |
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thehallway ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 13 2010 Location: Dorset, England Status: Offline Points: 1433 |
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When?
And jeez, why not justify your rating with some opinions nobody else cares about???
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 18036 |
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That is so awesome!!! And chocolate ice cream rules too...
Most have covered my thoughts on the question...which is NO. What I believe was just an attempt at starting a flame war, was talking about Phil's drumming and Gabriel's singing as issues to why you don't like Genesis?? Makes no sense...you could have picked something else that might have struck me as maybe this guy is looking for reasons to continue listening to Genesis....rather than why you should stop.
Yes they are rated very highly on this site and many others too......there is reason for that. But for me that is not a reason why I enjoy all of Genesis music.....I could give a rats a$$ if someone rates them a 5 or 1. For me they hit so many homeruns with their music, lyrics and style that I find myself emmersed in their albums.
If you are simply looking for reasons to tag them overrated then you need to re-evaluate why you listen to music at all.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I gave it 5 stars. Rating only
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thehallway ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 13 2010 Location: Dorset, England Status: Offline Points: 1433 |
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Interesting how this thread coincides with a recent stream of 3/4 star reviews for SEBTP (including my own, quick, it's on the front page now!!) and the fact that that album has slipped off the top-spot for 2011
Are we witnessing the beginnings of a revolt?!
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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Liking The Beatles or Genesis is not a sign of maturity. sarge, if you actually wanted people's opinions, which I suspect you didn't, you wouldn't have used such an obnoxious, combative tone. I'm generally baffled by the attention the whole symph subgenre gets here, and yet I manage to not make annoying threads about it. Try reading some of the hundreds of replies to people who had better intentions than you.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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I'll give the guy three years to figure out how really bad the Beatles sucked the big one.
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Nov ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 28 2009 Status: Offline Points: 523 |
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you considered The Beatles to be over-rated as well. I suggest you allow your musical taste to evolve and mature, have another listen, and then report back in a year or two. ![]() |
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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Phil wrecked Genesis. After Gabriel packed it in they should have just have restructured themselves and called it something else. Whe And Then There were Three came out I almost wanted to slit my throat.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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Damn, chocolate always reveals my closely guarded secrets. |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Chris S ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
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Try Midnight Oil instead or watch the last 2 days of the incredible England Ashes series.......a bit like Battle Of Epping Forest
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...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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By the way, good chocolate needs planning...
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Ok so now chocolate reveals your true colors: you are no libertarian, you're a full-fledged anarchist! Well we knew that already but once again, in chocolati veritas.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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The ice cream wouldn't change only your opinion of it.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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In a anarchist society, even chocolate ice cream would taste good.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Sarge, to use a few of your words, I really don't know you that much to give a crap about your damn opinion.
In rock music, Genesis takes first or second place with me.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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You deserve the government.
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