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    Posted: May 24 2021 at 15:23
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

As a headliner no, I don't recall them headlining anything. Yea they are HUGE in Germany, most proggy bands do well in Quebec. Their latest output is more akin to the earlier days, I have all those including 20/20 and Human Condition is not bad...........Contact-Live In Munich is fantastic!!

Sweet! So you stuck with them, too. Between you and me, I think Sagacity's pretty good! Thumbs Up

I think I have Sagacity as a download no CD, I'll have to check.......I wish they would release Chapters Live, Trust and 10K Days on LP.
Saga is a band that I enjoy listening to, when I do if that makes sense, they have so many albums. Their early stuff is so good.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

As a headliner no, I don't recall them headlining anything. Yea they are HUGE in Germany, most proggy bands do well in Quebec. Their latest output is more akin to the earlier days, I have all those including 20/20 and Human Condition is not bad...........Contact-Live In Munich is fantastic!!

Sweet! So you stuck with them, too. Between you and me, I think Sagacity's pretty good! Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I really did not get BrufordFreak's post, that was a lot of mixed bands......I'm a decent Saga fan, mainly from the period before Behaviour, although I like Behaviour. Not sure what you meant about them not touring the US, I saw them in Baton Rouge, La in 1984-85 I think they opened for The Police or could have been Quiet Riot, I don't remember.

Saga supported many bands but never toured as a headliner. They never broke through in the US, nor did they really net the enthusiasm of many Canadians. They did better in Quebec than Ontario! Their old manager was from England and didn't care about Canada. He wanted them to make it in the States. Meanwhile, they gained a rabid following in Germany, where they're loved to this day. (Michael Sadler has also performed solo shows in Germany.) Saga played stadiums in Puerto Rico and Venezuela. Here, they can't even mount a tour of small venues like Blue Oyster Cult.

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Saga is clearly a band that was very proggy and then went very AOR, but always had a small dose of prog in their music.

Did you hear Full Circle, House of Cards, Network, Trust or 10,000 Days? If not, I think you'll like them.
As a headliner no, I don't recall them headlining anything. Yea they are HUGE in Germany, most proggy bands do well in Quebec. Their latest output is more akin to the earlier days, I have all those including 20/20 and Human Condition is not bad...........Contact-Live In Munich is fantastic!!

And yes Rush are prog....


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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I really did not get BrufordFreak's post, that was a lot of mixed bands......I'm a decent Saga fan, mainly from the period before Behaviour, although I like Behaviour. Not sure what you meant about them not touring the US, I saw them in Baton Rouge, La in 1984-85 I think they opened for The Police or could have been Quiet Riot, I don't remember.

Saga supported many bands but never toured as a headliner. They never broke through in the US, nor did they really net the enthusiasm of many Canadians. They did better in Quebec than Ontario! Their old manager was from England and didn't care about Canada. He wanted them to make it in the States. Meanwhile, they gained a rabid following in Germany, where they're loved to this day. (Michael Sadler has also performed solo shows in Germany.) Saga played stadiums in Puerto Rico and Venezuela. Here, they can't even mount a tour of small venues like Blue Oyster Cult.

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Saga is clearly a band that was very proggy and then went very AOR, but always had a small dose of prog in their music.

Did you hear Full Circle, House of Cards, Network, Trust or 10,000 Days? If not, I think you'll like them.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Of course not. They were too ugly for that.

That didn't stop Pink Floyd. LOL
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Of course not. They were too ugly for that.

That didn't stop Pink Floyd. LOL
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It is only proper that when doing a band photo for a cover, the members must show their bellybuttons and they get bonus points when they're actually pointing at them. Hence, this amazing cover...



Already a proud NON-fan of those guys. Now I'm really glad. LOL
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Rush are not as proggy as fellow country mates Saga, Mystery, Pollen, Maneige, Sloche, Opus-5, Hamdryad, Harmonium, The D Project, Conventum, or even Ptarmigan.

Saga's nowhere near as proggy as those other bands, though. Saga's first three albums are wonderful, like a hybrid of Yes and early Styx with a dual keyboardist format and an almost exclusive reliance on Moog synths. I mean they used just about every Moog that was available at the time: MiniMoog, MicroMoog, PolyMoog, MemoryMoog, Liberation, you name it. You can see them in the Silhouette concert footage. So if you're a Moog freak and you haven't heard Saga's first few albums (Saga, Images at Twilight, Silent Knight, Worlds Apart), give them a listen.

Saga transitioned away from complex arrangements during the recording of 1983's Heads or Tales. Behaviour and Wildest Dreams (which saw the exit of two key members) sound, er, worlds apart from what they'd done before — very FM friendly. But they never regained the momentum they had with Worlds Apart and they've never toured the US. After a few duds, they were back in form with 1999's Full Circle, an album I regard as one of their best. They resumed the "Chapters" and an approach closer to Silent Knight and Worlds Apart for the first time in years. The next few albums are really good!

A friend of mine went to bassist Jim Crichton's Van Nuys studio (before he moved back to Canada) and met the line-up that recorded Trust. They were all there, in the midst of recording! They let a few select fans stop by one afternoon. I was stuck far away at work and couldn't make it.
I really did not get BrufordFreak's post, that was a lot of mixed bands......I'm a decent Saga fan, mainly from the period before Behaviour, although I like Behaviour. Not sure what you meant about them not touring the US, I saw them in Baton Rouge, La in 1984-85 I think they opened for The Police or could have been Quiet Riot, I don't remember.
Saga is clearly a band that was very proggy and then went very AOR, but always had a small dose of prog in their music.
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^ That's the result of staring at album covers for hours on end, I dare say.

Edited by SteveG - May 24 2021 at 09:11
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It is only proper that when doing a band photo for a cover, the members must show their bellybuttons and they get bonus points when they're actually pointing at them. Hence, this amazing cover...



LOL I would never have noticedShockedLOLLOLLOL
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NO...They're Canadian ! LOL


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It is only proper that when doing a band photo for a cover, the members must show their bellybuttons and they get bonus points when they're actually pointing at them. Hence, this amazing cover...
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Of course not. They were too ugly for that.

Like that stopped bands to put their faces on album covers.

Also, I can't believed you said that... LOL
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Of course not. They were too ugly for that.

Like that stopped bands to put their faces on album covers.

Also, I can't believed you said that... LOL
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^ Of course not. They were too ugly for that.
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^ except that Rush never put a photo of theirs as an album cover. 
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Yes, but was Geddy's mullet prog?

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I guess they were emulating their prog heroes, ELP. Confused
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

The only way to be absolutely sure is of course by building a bridge out of them. If that doesn’t help then merely put them on a scale and find out if they weigh the same as a duck = prog

"As you can see as illustrated by the Van Der Graaf here, RUSH are 3 ducks, which equates to 1.25 Prog."

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The only way to be absolutely sure is of course by building a bridge out of them. If that doesn’t help then merely put them on a scale and find out if they weigh the same as a duck = prog

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