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Poll Question: Which of the following do you listen to most?
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    Posted: July 06 2005 at 17:48

PFM

 

 

break the circle

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wake the sleepwalker

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2005 at 06:15
Museo Rosenbach
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2005 at 14:21

The best prog band is Banco del Mutuo Soccorso.

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At the beginning  of 1972 the band published their first album (Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Ricordi) that will be a masterpiece of the arosing progressive rock Italian scene. The album contain wanderful tracks full of  lyricism and really impressive composition. In it the words by Francesco Di Giacomo got marriedwell with the music of Vittorio Nocenzi. 
"R.I.P. (Requisecant In Pace)", "Il Giardino del Mago" and "Metamorfosi" are very beautiful tracks, full of poetry, of hints, of instrumental insertion close to very murmuring moments in an alternation of mood really surprising.


It's a surprising mature starting point , witness of the potentiality of the band. Also the artwork has a great impact, with a cover as a piggy bank and a little cut (in which generally one can put his coins) from which the photos of the members of the band come up. Now that LP is really rare and expansive. 

After few months Banco is still in a studio to record Darwin (1972), a concept album (the first in Italy) based on the Evolution Theory. 
The new adventure has a lot of new composition that are part of the history of the band: "La danza dei grandi rettili", "La conquista della posizione eretta" and "750000 anni fa... l'amore?" are paintings with thousands hints describing the "original caos" and the birth of humanity; the first man on the earth, firt animal with a consciousness and feelings, with a wish of  love, half animal (in the aspect) and half man, destined to became the most  (highly) developed
advanced animal of the planet.
 

Next year the guitarist  Marcello Todaro was substitute by Rodolfo Maltese (ex Homo Sapiens) and he partecipated to the record sessions of the third album "Io sono nato libero" (1973) also if he was only named as ah host in the cover notes. On the contrary he was already part of the band. 

Another time the band proposes very "high" tracks, in which the poetry of the lyrics are completed by the music. The new album has only five tracks but almost two of them ("Non mi rompete" and "Traccia II") enters in the history of the band. But also "Canto nomade per un prigioniero politico", "La città sottile" and "Dopo... niente è più lo stesso" are on a high level. 

The fourth album "Come in un'ultima cena" (1976) is another demonstration of the band's talent. The highlights are "Il Ragno", that is still in the gig list, after 20 years, "E' così buono Giovanni, ma...", "Si dice che i delfini parlino", "Fino alla mia porta" ...  all track really beautiful, also for the abroad public. As demontration next year Banco was chosen as entry band for the tour of  Gentle Giant.

 

"Darwin" is the best album: "Cento mani e cento occhi" (One hundred hands and one hundreds eyes) are probably the best italian prog song.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2005 at 19:05

so many great bands but....

Per Un Amico 1972

 

 

 

 

 

 

gotta go with PFM

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 04:37

Le orme is just... perfect on felona e serona

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 12:58

I love PFM, Le Orme, Locanda Delle Fate, I Giganti and Il Paese Dei Balocchi.

And to a lesser extent Banco, I Dik Dik, Quella Vecchia Locanda and Museo Rosenbach.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 12:25

I am new to italian prog, but I thought Locanda Delle Fate only had one release, well the one I have is jawdroppingly fantastic, so much so that i, at first, had difficutly driving when i was listening to it, too much to take in

 

between, pfm and banco, i can't decide, probably banco just because they seem to have a more serious side (unfortunately i can only tell this by the way the music and his voice sounds, so i dont really know what the hell their music is all about, i should find some translated lyrics)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 04:21

OK I'll say it, but I really like them - Rhapsody.

 

Thanks for the other names though, I'll have to do some investigating.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2005 at 18:36
... If you love jazz & avant-garde try Area, Arti & Mestieri, Perigeo, Deus Ex Machina...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2005 at 18:33
Originally posted by starcastle38 starcastle38 wrote:

Can someone recommend some good Italian Prog albums please? I like pfm and Acqua Fragile. However I bought Banco del Muto Soccorso (same title) and was disappointed. I also bought Il Paese del balocchi (from Kinesis) and was really disapponted. I don't want to give up on this genre of progressive rock but at $15 bucks a cd I can't afford anymore shots in the dark, so to speak. Thanks in advance.


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If you like PFM and Acqua Fragile I can recommend you Celeste, Locanda Delle Fate, Quella Vecchia Locanda (great volinist who lives in Hawaiis now...), Corte Dei Miracoli, Zauber, Delirium, Abissi Infiniti...
If you like Keyboards-driven prog you must have Felona E Sorona by Le Orme, Alphataurus, Raccomandata Ricevuta di Ritorno, The Trip...
If you like dramatic & dark moods highly recommended Balletto di Bronzo, Biglietto per l'Inferno, Ibis, Formula Tre's Dies Irae, Rovescio Della Medaglia...
If you like something similar to Hendrix meets Prog try Garybaldi's Nuda (also fantastic LP cover...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2005 at 13:24

Can someone recommend some good Italian Prog albums please? I like pfm and Acqua Fragile. However I bought Banco del Muto Soccorso (same title) and was disappointed. I also bought Il Paese del balocchi (from Kinesis) and was really disapponted. I don't want to give up on this genre of progressive rock but at $15 bucks a cd I can't afford anymore shots in the dark, so to speak. Thanks in advance.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 07:27

I think PFM.

Yes, i know that Celeste, La locanda delle fate or Il rovescio della medaglia are great too, but they were too much episodic. A sparkle in the dark. Then disappears.

And everyone, once in the lifetime, can make a masterpiece.

PFM or Banco too has had a path, a project, a sounds continuity.

And, IMO, a better music.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 06:40
...AND GARYBALDI, HENDRIX MEETS CLASSICAL AND AVANT-GARDE!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 06:39
BIGLIETTO PER L'INFERNO!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 04:05

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Your list is very good. I like all those albums.

However, I have a small problem with your no. 1 album "Io Sono Nato Libero". The problem is the song "Non Mi Rompete" which I almost hate for some reason. I always think it as the poor man's version of "750.000 Anni fa...L'amore". Without that song "Io Sono Nato Libero" would be my favourite Banco as well.
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I love "Non Mi Rompete"! It's a beautiful tune and the psychedelic phasing on the acoustic guitar is great as well.  However, I agree, it is difficult to choose the best Banco del Mutuo Soccorso album out of the first three - strong cases could be made for "Darwin!" and the first album "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso" as well.  They're all very good albums! "Io Sono Nato Libero" just happens to be my personal favourite, particularly because it contains "La Citta Sottile" (The Narrow City?), my favourite Banco song.  Mirco, well spotted, my nickname is after the PFM song.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 13:18
From listed I vote for Locanda Delle Fate
I know only Russian.
Apologies for bad English. I translate by means of the computer program
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 12:21
Originally posted by geranio geranio wrote:

Banco and PFM are the two most well known Italian prog bands, but I find their post 1975 output disappointing.  And don't even touch the English versions of PFM's albums - Sinfield's lyrics are not translations of the Italian and are totally unsympathetic to the music and the vocalists' obvious difficulty with the English language makes the whole thing sound very strained.  The Italian originals of the first 3 PFM albums are the best to go for.  Here's my top 10 list (for what it's worth):

1. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero (1973)

2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico (1972)

3. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)

4. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)

5. Alphataurus - Alphataurus (1973)

6. Biglietto Per L'Inferno - Biglietto Per L'Inferno (1974)

7. Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys (1972)

8. Campo Di Marte - Campo Di Marte (1972)

9. Corte Dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)

10. Maxophone - Maxophone (1975) (The Italian version, not the English language version!)

By the way, the closest English translation of Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso would be "The Mutual Aid Bank" but the literal translation is "The Self Help Bank", which explains the pun of the money box on the cover of the first album.  Premiata Forneria Marconi is best translated as "Marconi's Prize Winning Bakery" (although don't ask me why they chose this name!)



Your list is very good. I like all those albums.

However, I have a small problem with your no. 1 album "Io Sono Nato Libero". The problem is the song "Non Mi Rompete" which I almost hate for some reason. I always think it as the poor man's version of "750.000 Anni fa...L'amore". Without that song "Io Sono Nato Libero" would be my favourite Banco as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 12:04
picchio dal pozzo/same
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:29
Originally posted by geranio geranio wrote:

Banco and PFM are the two most well known Italian prog bands, but I find their post 1975 output disappointing.  And don't even touch the English versions of PFM's albums - Sinfield's lyrics are not translations of the Italian and are totally unsympathetic to the music and the vocalists' obvious difficulty with the English language makes the whole thing sound very strained.  The Italian originals of the first 3 PFM albums are the best to go for.  Here's my top 10 list (for what it's worth):

1. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero (1973)

2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico (1972)

3. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)

4. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)

5. Alphataurus - Alphataurus (1973)

6. Biglietto Per L'Inferno - Biglietto Per L'Inferno (1974)

7. Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys (1972)

8. Campo Di Marte - Campo Di Marte (1972)

9. Corte Dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)

10. Maxophone - Maxophone (1975) (The Italian version, not the English language version!)

By the way, the closest English translation of Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso would be "The Mutual Aid Bank" but the literal translation is "The Self Help Bank", which explains the pun of the money box on the cover of the first album.  Premiata Forneria Marconi is best translated as "Marconi's Prize Winning Bakery" (although don't ask me why they chose this name!)

Your nick is a omage to the very good hononimus song of "per un amico"? Welcome, btw...
Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:24

Banco and PFM are the two most well known Italian prog bands, but I find their post 1975 output disappointing.  And don't even touch the English versions of PFM's albums - Sinfield's lyrics are not translations of the Italian and are totally unsympathetic to the music and the vocalists' obvious difficulty with the English language makes the whole thing sound very strained.  The Italian originals of the first 3 PFM albums are the best to go for.  Here's my top 10 list (for what it's worth):

1. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero (1973)

2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico (1972)

3. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)

4. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)

5. Alphataurus - Alphataurus (1973)

6. Biglietto Per L'Inferno - Biglietto Per L'Inferno (1974)

7. Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys (1972)

8. Campo Di Marte - Campo Di Marte (1972)

9. Corte Dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)

10. Maxophone - Maxophone (1975) (The Italian version, not the English language version!)

By the way, the closest English translation of Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso would be "The Mutual Aid Bank" but the literal translation is "The Self Help Bank", which explains the pun of the money box on the cover of the first album.  Premiata Forneria Marconi is best translated as "Marconi's Prize Winning Bakery" (although don't ask me why they chose this name!)

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