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    Posted: May 09 2013 at 11:09

Funny, I'm so anti-country (my dad loves it though :-) - and on today's PopMatters website, there's an interview with Karl Hyde of Underworld, a British electronic group whose albums I quite like, and he says he came close to making a country album, LOL:

"You probably wouldn’t think it from his work with Underworld, but Karl Hyde is a bit of a country music fan. Indeed, during recent time away from the band, he even considered recording a collection of what he refers to as ‘drinking songs’."

Brilliant article by the way, referencing everything from Brian Eno to Fredric Jameson to James Joyce, urbanism, and the link between country and folk music, and electronic music: http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/170522-karl-hyde/



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2013 at 11:03
Techno. Pretty simple really. It's not that I dislike the other genres here(maybe apart from country - even if I love Dolly Parton's Jolene) - I just dance better to electronic music is all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2013 at 10:45
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Earendil Earendil wrote:

I consider disco and (straight) techno to be inherently void of musical value.


Well, you're wrong, LOL. "Straight" techno comes from Detroit - in fact, the term was coined by Detroit techno artists, and it's pretty exciting stuff. It started out as black music. Here's Fact Mag's Top 10 Detroit Techno tracks as a primer, if you want to listen to them:



Yeah you're right... most of the stuff I've heard that's popular, like any other genre I guess, was pretty lame, but I'm sure all of it isn't
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2013 at 10:01
Why don't we have the four genres all wrapped in one genre?
Okay, I'm not sure it will be very edible, but it has to be tried!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2013 at 07:46
Country, Modern Country, and Bluegrass requires more technique for guitar than what I've heard in Techno, Rap, or Disco. Modern Country deals with open tunings and slide playing on acoustic. Earlier Country music on electric guitar requires a precise and developed technique of alternate picking, lead chord work, and a "Travis' right hand finger picking technique found in "Ragtime". A "Ragtime" style displayed by Steve Howe on "The Clap" surfaced through guitarists like Chet Atkins and Roy Clark. Scotty Moore who played with Elvis had a percussive approach which influenced Bill Bruford to form independent ideas on drums. Country music in general is sometimes mixed with a guitar technique found in Jazz. I don't personally like Country music , but it's more challenging to play than the other styles mentioned in this thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2013 at 05:04
I'm not a fan of Techno, Rap, Disco or Country (though I appreciate some George Jones, Johnny Cash and  Gram Parsons)

HOWEVER - my favorite album of ANY GENRE from the LAST 10 years is this one:



and I still can't really articulate whyConfused (It just seems to tick every conceivable Lemming box..Dunno)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2013 at 04:50
jude1111 you should check out Lars Vaular he is mixing rap and trance in a cool way
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 22:18
I like quality Rap once in a while. (geez I probably sound really white as I just said that) anyway I really like the Canadian due, SWOLLEN MEMBERS. Great Rap group. Huge fan of the album BAD DREAMS and it was actually the first rap album I bought. :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 11:15
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Earendil Earendil wrote:

I consider disco and (straight) techno to be inherently void of musical value.
Well, timber me shivers, shiver me timbers, get yourself that Saturday Night Fever soundtrack.

Or, even better, start with Moroder, something a bit out there, familiar and unfamiliar at the same time :-) . I find this review of Moroder's classic album to be a fine defense or apology for why disco *doesn't* suck: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/5639-from-here-to-eternity/

Or, one could start with something more recent (I'd go with Daft Punk's Homework and Discovery), and then work one's way back...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 11:04
Originally posted by Earendil Earendil wrote:

I consider disco and (straight) techno to be inherently void of musical value.
Well, timber me shivers, shiver me timbers, get yourself that Saturday Night Fever soundtrack.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 06:58
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

i have a theory that folk music of europe plays part in the subconsious of people who makes music and you have 30 different countrys with different folk music which is filterd thorugh the music, and history and europe is a meltig pot, and what europe is quite good at i culture fusion, take something and make it our own, like pasta, fireworks, potatos and stuff


I find that's particularly true in Eastern Europe, where people remain closely connected to their folk musics, even when their going to raves in the city. (Once I went hiking through the mountains in Bulgaria for a week with people largely from Sophia and other cities like Shumen and Varna, and man, out came the flamenco guitars and the folk dancing and the mountain songs and the rakia [strong alcohol made from a fruit].) But Western European music's so futuristic - musically, it's like stepping into a world that's 100 years ahead of America. Coming back to the US was like time travelling into the past, you expect to see wagon trails, and where people are still listening to Appalachian music like in the film Deliverance LOL
i think there is a eastern sound, a western sound, a northern sound and a mediteranian sound, or feel,

easternh feel/sound has a strong rom/gypsy feel, or even hints of jewish maybem and also to folktones from their Slavic or Romantic origins, western is as you say more futuristic, but i also sence a stong classical feel to it, classy, elegant, victorian, industrial, (mainly Germany, France, Netherland, Austria, Great Brittan, and Belgium), Northern is more chilly Wink, more natural sounds, simplistic, but rich, more archaic, but also lyrical, and mediteranian is more temperamentfull, fast and exotic, elements from both arabic, spanish, Turkian, and middeleastern,

and India has its Goa, which is a different beast.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 06:48
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

i have a theory that folk music of europe plays part in the subconsious of people who makes music and you have 30 different countrys with different folk music which is filterd thorugh the music, and history and europe is a meltig pot, and what europe is quite good at i culture fusion, take something and make it our own, like pasta, fireworks, potatos and stuff


I find that's particularly true in Eastern Europe, where people remain closely connected to their folk musics, even when they're going to discos in the city. (Once I went hiking through the mountains in Bulgaria for a week with people largely from Sophia and other cities like Shumen and Varna, and man, out came the flamenco guitars and the folk dancing and the mountain songs and the rakia [strong alcohol made from a fruit].) But Western European music's so futuristic - musically, it's like stepping into a world that's 100 years ahead of America. Coming back to the US was like time travelling into the past, you expect to see wagon trails, and where people are still listening to Appalachian music like in the film Deliverance LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 06:11
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

rave came from Essex right and Trance from Berlin and some schools came from Netherlands, and also acid house from Italy or something, Benny Benassy is said to have been one of the initiaters of using heavy moog lead house

this is my favourite acid house tune to play on the dance flour http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53mMbPQP8b8  dd you listen to this tune, pay attention to the moog, and how deep it goes.

PS; i was a Trance/house DJ from 9th grade until high school, before i knew of prog i was a techno head (i am a child of the 90s, innetable to me to be consumed my the techno culture)

Cool. Being American, I missed out on all that. It was only when I lived in Europe that I discovered how much music Americans miss out on, and how isolated that country is generally. There's a pretty big gap between Americans and Europeans of the same generation, as far as music goes. Even though techno and house were born in the US, it was ignored there, but highly influential in England and Germany. Strange how that works...
i have a theory that folk music of europe plays part in the subconsious of people who makes music and you have 30 different countrys with different folk music which is filterd thorugh the music, and history and europe is a meltig pot, and what europe is quite good at i culture fusion, take something and make it our own, like pasta, fireworks, potatos and stuff

i also have a theory that lots of childrens music ends up fitlerd through composed music, music from Sesamy Street might subconsiously end up in bands like DT or even Kayo Dot, for the simple reason that it is probably something they enjoyed ass kids.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 06:06
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

rave came from Essex right and Trance from Berlin and some schools came from Netherlands, and also acid house from Italy or something, Benny Benassy is said to have been one of the initiaters of using heavy moog lead house

this is my favourite acid house tune to play on the dance flour http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53mMbPQP8b8

PS; i was a Trance/house DJ from 9th grade until high school, before i knew of prog i was a techno head (i am a child of the 90s, innetable to me to be consumed my the techno culture)

Cool. Being American, I missed out on all that. It was only when I lived in Europe that I discovered how much music Americans miss out on, and how isolated that country is generally. There's a pretty big gap between Americans and Europeans of the same generation, as far as music goes. Even though techno and house were born in the US, it was ignored there, but highly influential in England and Germany. Strange how that works...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 06:01
rave came from Essex right and Trance from Berlin and some schools came from Netherlands, and also acid house from Italy or something, Benny Benassy is said to have been one of the initiaters of using heavy moog lead house

this is my favourite acid house tune to play on the dance flour http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53mMbPQP8b8

PS; i was a Trance/house DJ from 9th grade until high school, before i knew of prog i was a techno head (i am a child of the 90s, innetable to me to be consumed my the techno culture)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 05:53
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

i like house more then techno!

Great stuff too. I consider techno a label that kind of subsumed house (even though Chicago house came first Wink -
For Earendil:



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 05:50
i like house more then techno!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 05:47
Originally posted by Earendil Earendil wrote:

I consider disco and (straight) techno to be inherently void of musical value.


Well, you're wrong, LOL. "Straight" techno comes from Detroit - in fact, the term was coined by Detroit techno artists, and it's pretty exciting stuff. It started out as black music. Here's Fact Mag's Top 10 Detroit Techno tracks as a primer, if you want to listen to them:




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 05:34
i love Techno, Trance, House and Rave more then Hip hop were only true hardcore and Outkast and Old school is the real deal for me

Disco is okey but nothing i really listens to and I like Country filterd through rock so nah, i like Blue Grass and i have been to country bars and had a good time so its okey if the mood is okey.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2013 at 04:04
I consider disco and (straight) techno to be inherently void of musical value.

I respect legitimate country, but I've never been into it.  My vote goes to rap for the real stuff and not that sh*t on the radio.
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