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Poll Question: Which of the following do you listen to most?
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40 [38.83%]
32 [31.07%]
6 [5.83%]
5 [4.85%]
20 [19.42%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 04:39
Best Euro-prog comes/came from UK, Sweden and Italy...Long live Europe:) Cheers:)
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What about german Prog Lostrom...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2005 at 06:44
Originally posted by Vegetableman Vegetableman wrote:

Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

 

AREA is missing in this poll!!

DEMETRIO STRATOS: you're not gone, just a bit far away.

 

I wouldn't really consider Area Italian prog. For one, their music can't be classified like other Italian prog groups. They didn't have the italian "sound" For two, they were only half Italian... (three Italians, one French, one Belgian, one greek)

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Vegetableman : most of the italian groups have a quiet peculiar sound,let's sayfor ex Goblin is very different from PFM ,as for "only half italian"... they lived and recorded in Italy, DS is mainly singing in Italian (when he's not yodelling) what more do you want...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:24

Banco and PFM are the two most well known Italian prog bands, but I find their post 1975 output disappointing.  And don't even touch the English versions of PFM's albums - Sinfield's lyrics are not translations of the Italian and are totally unsympathetic to the music and the vocalists' obvious difficulty with the English language makes the whole thing sound very strained.  The Italian originals of the first 3 PFM albums are the best to go for.  Here's my top 10 list (for what it's worth):

1. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero (1973)

2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico (1972)

3. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)

4. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)

5. Alphataurus - Alphataurus (1973)

6. Biglietto Per L'Inferno - Biglietto Per L'Inferno (1974)

7. Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys (1972)

8. Campo Di Marte - Campo Di Marte (1972)

9. Corte Dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)

10. Maxophone - Maxophone (1975) (The Italian version, not the English language version!)

By the way, the closest English translation of Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso would be "The Mutual Aid Bank" but the literal translation is "The Self Help Bank", which explains the pun of the money box on the cover of the first album.  Premiata Forneria Marconi is best translated as "Marconi's Prize Winning Bakery" (although don't ask me why they chose this name!)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:29
Originally posted by geranio geranio wrote:

Banco and PFM are the two most well known Italian prog bands, but I find their post 1975 output disappointing.  And don't even touch the English versions of PFM's albums - Sinfield's lyrics are not translations of the Italian and are totally unsympathetic to the music and the vocalists' obvious difficulty with the English language makes the whole thing sound very strained.  The Italian originals of the first 3 PFM albums are the best to go for.  Here's my top 10 list (for what it's worth):

1. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero (1973)

2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico (1972)

3. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)

4. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)

5. Alphataurus - Alphataurus (1973)

6. Biglietto Per L'Inferno - Biglietto Per L'Inferno (1974)

7. Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys (1972)

8. Campo Di Marte - Campo Di Marte (1972)

9. Corte Dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)

10. Maxophone - Maxophone (1975) (The Italian version, not the English language version!)

By the way, the closest English translation of Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso would be "The Mutual Aid Bank" but the literal translation is "The Self Help Bank", which explains the pun of the money box on the cover of the first album.  Premiata Forneria Marconi is best translated as "Marconi's Prize Winning Bakery" (although don't ask me why they chose this name!)

Your nick is a omage to the very good hononimus song of "per un amico"? Welcome, btw...
Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 12:04
picchio dal pozzo/same
dedalus/same
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 12:21
Originally posted by geranio geranio wrote:

Banco and PFM are the two most well known Italian prog bands, but I find their post 1975 output disappointing.  And don't even touch the English versions of PFM's albums - Sinfield's lyrics are not translations of the Italian and are totally unsympathetic to the music and the vocalists' obvious difficulty with the English language makes the whole thing sound very strained.  The Italian originals of the first 3 PFM albums are the best to go for.  Here's my top 10 list (for what it's worth):

1. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero (1973)

2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico (1972)

3. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)

4. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)

5. Alphataurus - Alphataurus (1973)

6. Biglietto Per L'Inferno - Biglietto Per L'Inferno (1974)

7. Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys (1972)

8. Campo Di Marte - Campo Di Marte (1972)

9. Corte Dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)

10. Maxophone - Maxophone (1975) (The Italian version, not the English language version!)

By the way, the closest English translation of Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso would be "The Mutual Aid Bank" but the literal translation is "The Self Help Bank", which explains the pun of the money box on the cover of the first album.  Premiata Forneria Marconi is best translated as "Marconi's Prize Winning Bakery" (although don't ask me why they chose this name!)



Your list is very good. I like all those albums.

However, I have a small problem with your no. 1 album "Io Sono Nato Libero". The problem is the song "Non Mi Rompete" which I almost hate for some reason. I always think it as the poor man's version of "750.000 Anni fa...L'amore". Without that song "Io Sono Nato Libero" would be my favourite Banco as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 13:18
From listed I vote for Locanda Delle Fate
I know only Russian.
Apologies for bad English. I translate by means of the computer program
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 04:05

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Your list is very good. I like all those albums.

However, I have a small problem with your no. 1 album "Io Sono Nato Libero". The problem is the song "Non Mi Rompete" which I almost hate for some reason. I always think it as the poor man's version of "750.000 Anni fa...L'amore". Without that song "Io Sono Nato Libero" would be my favourite Banco as well.
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I love "Non Mi Rompete"! It's a beautiful tune and the psychedelic phasing on the acoustic guitar is great as well.  However, I agree, it is difficult to choose the best Banco del Mutuo Soccorso album out of the first three - strong cases could be made for "Darwin!" and the first album "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso" as well.  They're all very good albums! "Io Sono Nato Libero" just happens to be my personal favourite, particularly because it contains "La Citta Sottile" (The Narrow City?), my favourite Banco song.  Mirco, well spotted, my nickname is after the PFM song.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 06:39
BIGLIETTO PER L'INFERNO!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 06:40
...AND GARYBALDI, HENDRIX MEETS CLASSICAL AND AVANT-GARDE!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2005 at 07:27

I think PFM.

Yes, i know that Celeste, La locanda delle fate or Il rovescio della medaglia are great too, but they were too much episodic. A sparkle in the dark. Then disappears.

And everyone, once in the lifetime, can make a masterpiece.

PFM or Banco too has had a path, a project, a sounds continuity.

And, IMO, a better music.

 

prog forever!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2005 at 13:24

Can someone recommend some good Italian Prog albums please? I like pfm and Acqua Fragile. However I bought Banco del Muto Soccorso (same title) and was disappointed. I also bought Il Paese del balocchi (from Kinesis) and was really disapponted. I don't want to give up on this genre of progressive rock but at $15 bucks a cd I can't afford anymore shots in the dark, so to speak. Thanks in advance.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2005 at 18:33
Originally posted by starcastle38 starcastle38 wrote:

Can someone recommend some good Italian Prog albums please? I like pfm and Acqua Fragile. However I bought Banco del Muto Soccorso (same title) and was disappointed. I also bought Il Paese del balocchi (from Kinesis) and was really disapponted. I don't want to give up on this genre of progressive rock but at $15 bucks a cd I can't afford anymore shots in the dark, so to speak. Thanks in advance.


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If you like PFM and Acqua Fragile I can recommend you Celeste, Locanda Delle Fate, Quella Vecchia Locanda (great volinist who lives in Hawaiis now...), Corte Dei Miracoli, Zauber, Delirium, Abissi Infiniti...
If you like Keyboards-driven prog you must have Felona E Sorona by Le Orme, Alphataurus, Raccomandata Ricevuta di Ritorno, The Trip...
If you like dramatic & dark moods highly recommended Balletto di Bronzo, Biglietto per l'Inferno, Ibis, Formula Tre's Dies Irae, Rovescio Della Medaglia...
If you like something similar to Hendrix meets Prog try Garybaldi's Nuda (also fantastic LP cover...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2005 at 18:36
... If you love jazz & avant-garde try Area, Arti & Mestieri, Perigeo, Deus Ex Machina...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 04:21

OK I'll say it, but I really like them - Rhapsody.

 

Thanks for the other names though, I'll have to do some investigating.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 12:25

I am new to italian prog, but I thought Locanda Delle Fate only had one release, well the one I have is jawdroppingly fantastic, so much so that i, at first, had difficutly driving when i was listening to it, too much to take in

 

between, pfm and banco, i can't decide, probably banco just because they seem to have a more serious side (unfortunately i can only tell this by the way the music and his voice sounds, so i dont really know what the hell their music is all about, i should find some translated lyrics)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 12:58

I love PFM, Le Orme, Locanda Delle Fate, I Giganti and Il Paese Dei Balocchi.

And to a lesser extent Banco, I Dik Dik, Quella Vecchia Locanda and Museo Rosenbach.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 04:37

Le orme is just... perfect on felona e serona

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2005 at 19:05

so many great bands but....

Per Un Amico 1972

 

 

 

 

 

 

gotta go with PFM

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