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    Posted: October 18 2005 at 23:55

I love blur

 

They are my favorite band! And I have all the albums, They don't sound the same at all, the way Oasis does.  Each album sounds different to the next. Well except maybe Leisure and Modern Life is Rubbish 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 22:12
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Most Britpop - Blur, Oasis and all those other half arsed lamebrains - was utter drivel. derivative song structures, vapid lyrics, unimaginative arrangements - you got the feeling that record companies were releasing demos rather than telling the bands to go away and finish their songs properly.

Pulp had pretty good lyrics and some surprisingly inventive music to back them up, not prog but there was quite a bit of substance there.

The Verve (if they were really Britpop) also had their moments - Urban Hymns is an excellent 90s rock album.

Urban Hymns (excellent Brit Rock/Pop) and A Storm in Heaven (excellent Brit psychedalia)!!!

I like Oasis, though. I bought Don't Believe the Truth the day it came out. But it's ROCK and POP, so I don't know what you expected the song structured to be like, though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 16:01
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I liked the Manics (are they still going?) - I think that 1997 was a fantastic year for guitar driven rock, as there were so many good bands, like the Seahorses, Manson, Garbage, Radiohead, the Eels etc - and even the "2nd Division" bands like Supergrass were very entertaining (sorry Blackie - I've seen them a few times, and was disappointed...).

I like Oasis' music, and I think that some of it probably is almost as classic as the Beatles - but not as much as the hype would have you believe, hence the widespread incredulity. Pulp were fantastic, and Divine Comedy are the great overlooked in my book. Another band whose 1st album really struck me was the Fun Lovin' Criminals - their later stuff was more of the same unfortunately, but I still spin the debut from time to time. Then there was Kula Shaker... Well, I liked them, even if they were derivative to the max!

None of it prog, of course - but I don't restrict my listening pleasures 

Kula Shaker derivative? Well, I wont argue, but surely Oasis are worse, Cert?? They've even admitted they've tried to write songs that sound like the Beatles.

I've never understood the hype about Oasis. There's a few anthems in their catalogue (Roll with It, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Champagne Supernova etc) but they write mostly crap IMO.

I always felt that Pulp and Supergrass were the less derivative of the Brit pop bands.

KS were a brilliant re-interpretation of late 1960s psychedelic rock, with everything in there from early Deep Purple to early Pink Floyd to the Small Faces, Kaleidoscope, the Zombies - the lot really. But with better production and a harder edge.

I'm not sure about Oasis being "worse" - yes, a lot of their stuff has the Beatles' style stamped all over it - but you'd always recognise Oasis against the Beatles, so that's another piece of hype IMO - probably fanned by Oasis in a bid to sell more records. Compare any Oasis album against any Beatles album between 1965 and 1969 and there's not much legitimate comparison - Oasis are more of a stadium rock band, while the fab four deliver stuff right across the spectrum.

I won't get into a debate over Supergrass - but every time I've seen them live it's like a carbon copy of the CD, with little atmosphere except amont the fans at the front. Their "standout" material is catchy and likeable enough, but not really anthem material, IMO. The acid test is simply to make a compilation and see which stand out the most on repeated plays - not forgetting to add in Ocean Colour Scene.

That's mainly down to taste, of course!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 12:47
I love Coldplay
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 12:19
ive got all coldplay albums
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 11:13
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I liked the Manics (are they still going?) - I think that 1997 was a fantastic year for guitar driven rock, as there were so many good bands, like the Seahorses, Manson, Garbage, Radiohead, the Eels etc - and even the "2nd Division" bands like Supergrass were very entertaining (sorry Blackie - I've seen them a few times, and was disappointed...).

I like Oasis' music, and I think that some of it probably is almost as classic as the Beatles - but not as much as the hype would have you believe, hence the widespread incredulity. Pulp were fantastic, and Divine Comedy are the great overlooked in my book. Another band whose 1st album really struck me was the Fun Lovin' Criminals - their later stuff was more of the same unfortunately, but I still spin the debut from time to time. Then there was Kula Shaker... Well, I liked them, even if they were derivative to the max!

None of it prog, of course - but I don't restrict my listening pleasures 

Manics still go on.Last year they've released an excellent album called Lifeblood...Very well indeed

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:10

i like oasis and coldplay.

and beatles

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 09:30
As far as I know, most of them are better than classic Mtv groups. But Brit-Pop is not my style. Boring for me..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 08:29
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I liked the Manics (are they still going?) - I think that 1997 was a fantastic year for guitar driven rock, as there were so many good bands, like the Seahorses, Manson, Garbage, Radiohead, the Eels etc - and even the "2nd Division" bands like Supergrass were very entertaining (sorry Blackie - I've seen them a few times, and was disappointed...).

I like Oasis' music, and I think that some of it probably is almost as classic as the Beatles - but not as much as the hype would have you believe, hence the widespread incredulity. Pulp were fantastic, and Divine Comedy are the great overlooked in my book. Another band whose 1st album really struck me was the Fun Lovin' Criminals - their later stuff was more of the same unfortunately, but I still spin the debut from time to time. Then there was Kula Shaker... Well, I liked them, even if they were derivative to the max!

None of it prog, of course - but I don't restrict my listening pleasures 

Kula Shaker derivative? Well, I wont argue, but surely Oasis are worse, Cert?? They've even admitted they've tried to write songs that sound like the Beatles.

I've never understood the hype about Oasis. There's a few anthems in their catalogue (Roll with It, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Champagne Supernova etc) but they write mostly crap IMO.

I always felt that Pulp and Supergrass were the less derivative of the Brit pop bands.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2005 at 20:23
I've been fairly obsessed with Supergrass recently. It always amazes me because they make the music sounds so easy and stress free but at the same time are being onnovative and writing really good pop songs.

I recently got Road to Rouen and its fantastic (although not as directly pop-y).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2005 at 15:17

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Do you know The Electric Soft Parade? Great stuff!

No - they passed me by - but thanks to your heads up I'll check them out!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2005 at 15:06
^ Do you know The Electric Soft Parade? Great stuff!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2005 at 15:00

I liked the Manics (are they still going?) - I think that 1997 was a fantastic year for guitar driven rock, as there were so many good bands, like the Seahorses, Manson, Garbage, Radiohead, the Eels etc - and even the "2nd Division" bands like Supergrass were very entertaining (sorry Blackie - I've seen them a few times, and was disappointed...).

I like Oasis' music, and I think that some of it probably is almost as classic as the Beatles - but not as much as the hype would have you believe, hence the widespread incredulity. Pulp were fantastic, and Divine Comedy are the great overlooked in my book. Another band whose 1st album really struck me was the Fun Lovin' Criminals - their later stuff was more of the same unfortunately, but I still spin the debut from time to time. Then there was Kula Shaker... Well, I liked them, even if they were derivative to the max!

None of it prog, of course - but I don't restrict my listening pleasures 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2005 at 08:29

I dont mind some Blur. Damon Alburn is a terrible singer, but as a band they have been quite innovative and original. Cant say the same for Oasis. If the word overated can ever be used with justification, it will be with regard to Oasis!

I like the Manics. I've several of their albums, and I also like Supergrass who I think are very underated. Their last album was excellent. Suede, Pulp and Catatonia were all pretty good too IMO.

The best 'Indie' music was around at the beginning of the 90's IMO. Artists like Ride, Curve, Lush, Cranes and the Boo Radleys were at the forefront of a new wave of indie music, combining strong melodies, with lots of 'effect heavy' guitar, and a combination of punk and  hippy spirit.

Thats how I heard it anyway!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2005 at 19:32
Porcupine tree have some brit influences on their latest albums..Especially on stupid dream too....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2005 at 17:44

I like Brit pop. Maybe a bias, as I'm English.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2005 at 22:35

My wife is a huge fan of it (as well as being an old friend of one of those big Britpop band's lead singers) ...

There are a few albums I've enjoyed over the years myself ...

Mansun's Attack Of The Grey Lantern,
both Kula Shaker albums,
Oasis' What's The Story Morning Glory,
Ocean Colour Scene's superb B-sides collections,
Suede's Dog Man Star,
Gomez's Bring It On and Liquid Skin,
Cosmic Rough Riders' Enjoy The Melodic Sunshine

for starters

We have almost the whole catalogue of Radiohead, Suede, Super Furry Animals and Gomez and a host of other bands (Blur, Dodgy, Elbow, Embrace, Cast, Lowgold, Pulp, Doves, Muse, Divine Comedy, Charlatans, Bluetones, Hothouse Flowers, Manic Street Preachers, Gaydad, Coldplay, Spritiualized, Travis and Verve)

So, yes even though it is kind of derivitive ... there's still a lot of good music to go around, although I'm not the expert  ...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2005 at 20:39
I like a coule of Coldplay songs i've heard, but i wouldn't go out and purchase an album or anything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2005 at 18:29
In my opinion brit pop started as a genre combining elements of punk/pop/rock and creating a new sound.The new brit pop is much better than the newer one.The second movement of brit pop is very interesting too.And i'm glad that you find Manic street preachers to be a great band..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2005 at 00:34
Manic Street Preachers certainly is a great band.
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