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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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I like at least some music from every one of those categories. But free / avant garde is probably what I listen to most frequently these days, followed by cool, bebop-hard bop and jazz-rock fusion.
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laplace ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 06 2005 Location: popupControl(); Status: Offline Points: 7606 |
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Never seen this thread before so I'm clicking funk jazz under the understanding that it encompasses afrobeat. I spent a while looking for "canterbury" until I saw the last option :(
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progismylife ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2006 Location: ibreathehelium Status: Offline Points: 15535 |
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I'll revive this thread with a vote for, um, I don't know. What option is closest to smooth jazz? Ah other I guess.
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Said it before, jazz fusion covers just under 50% of the other sub-genres listed. You mean jazz rock fusion to avoid ambiguity. One of the first groups/albums with 'fusion' in it name was the Joe Harriott/John Mayer Indo-jazz Fusion group of 1965- 8, who fused jazz and raga.
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Arrrghus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 21 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5296 |
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Fusion, followed by Coltrane. He's a genre himself, he's that awesome.
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Sasquamo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 828 |
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So many people voted for jazz fusion, probably because it is the only jazz genre that they are familiar with. A couple more things. The original poster said that bebop and hard bop are 100 percent improvisation. Actually, that's not true, since there is a main melody. The musicians all play the "head," or melody, through a couple of times and then they go into their solos, where the first instrument improvises stuff based on the chord changes of the head for as long as he wants before stopping and letting the next instrument play, and so on, until everyone that is soloing in the tune is done, at which point they play the head again, and the song is over. Also, despite its name, hard bop is very different from bebop.
Anyway, I vote for bebop/hard bop, since I love both.
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markosherrera ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 01 2006 Location: World Status: Offline Points: 3252 |
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brazilian jazz like ZIL ,egberto gismonti,nana vasconcelos,flora purim ,hermeto pascoal.,wagner tiso ,Cesar Camargo Mariano,Tania Maria,Eliane Elias
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Jay440 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 25 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118 |
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In no order of preference:
BeBop/Hard Bop (McCoy Tyner's "Trident' album kicks serious ass!) Fusion (Mahavishnu, Tony Williams, etc.) Free Jazz. Exactly which Sub-Genre Pat Metheny falls into seems to be in question, but I really dig him. |
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Abstrakt ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 18 2005 Location: Soundgarden Status: Offline Points: 18292 |
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Jazz Fusion followed by avant/free jazz
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Have to remind that terminology used wrt jazz-relayted musics here is at best sloppy and inconsistent. Fusion covers allsorts of jazz fused with other musics. Remember one of the first albums with fusion in its title and an early source of the term was with Joe Harriott & John Mayers Indo Jazz Fusion albums in the mid 60's, a marriage of then English style modern jazz (and Joe Harriott was West Indian who had been on the London scene for 20 years) and Indian raga. ![]() Mention of Holdsworth and Dixie dregs then strictly the majority of their albums are jazz rock fusion. The only reference book and history on the subject of mixing rock with jazz is Stuart Nicholson's Jazz Rock: A History
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lucas ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 06 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 8138 |
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The result of this poll was highly predictible (as was the result of the Dire Straits poll) : prog-related jazz !!!
I like many jazz subgenres :
world jazz (Pat Meth, Jan Garbarek, Zakir Hussain, didier malherbe (ex-Gong BTW))
be-bop/hard-bop (john coltrane, wayne shorter)
latin jazz (the crusaders' 'chili con soul' album)
vocal jazz (sarah vaughan, billie holiday)
big band (buddy rich big band, 'big swing face' is a phenomenal live CD, and check out the tribute to the music of BR featuring the buddy rich big band + drummers like Bruford, Neil Peart, Morgenstein, Manu Katché...)
fusion (loose change (w/ virgil donati), allan holdsworth, dixie dregs...)
ragtime (scott joplin)
cool jazz (miles davis)
plus artists like earl hines, duke ellington...
Recently I was on holidays in Poland, and bought some polish jazz that I can recommend to you :
Wlodzimierz Nahorny (free jazz), Jan 'ptaszyn' wroblewski, jarek smietana, krzysztof komeda, zbigniew namyslowski, leszek mozdzer sextet, michal urbaniak's album 'decadence' (it's not really jazz, more experience stuff with an orchestra).
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Intruder ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 13 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2211 |
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Dig 'em all!
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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progressive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 366 |
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1. Avant Garde/Free Jazz. and some funky :) |
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Kleynan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 28 2006 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 720 |
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Absoloutly no contest! Fusion is my choice of course. Followed by cool and funk.
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Sacred 22 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1509 |
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Fusion but I do like to listen to masters play as well.
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Reverie ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 14 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 626 |
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And me |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Those in the UK, look out in HMV's sale for a cheap copy of nu.fusionist's Nils Petter Molvaer's album Remakes - a remix album, which has contributions from modern jazz musicians Bill Laswell, Matthew Herbert, Bugge Wesseltoft, Martin Koller etc. I reckon a few here will have a real shock to the directions in which new jazz are heading - at least based on the limited choices offered up here on this thread. (Indeed check out Nils Petter Molvaer's original albums, e.g. Khymer, Live, NP3, etc. to discover the degree to which nu-fusion can be deconstructed and constructed afresh).
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