"Proggyness"

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Quality over proggines for me. A good non-prog album is always better than an average prog one.

Well, the thing is, 5 stars does not mean "This album has very high quality music on it" but "This album has very high quality prog music on it and is representative for prog music" so one should not be apalled by proggyness as a criteria.

Secondly, I find this dichotomy you're proposing somewhat of a false dilema. You're implying that most of the times reviewers are having a hard time because they stumble upon good music that's not proggy enough, when that might not be the case (I'm saying not all 4 star albums would've been 5 stars one a non-prog site; most of them would still be 4 stars).

Thirdly, what the walrus does one mean by proggyness? Is it technicality? Is it something else? 'Cause I don't see how someone would say very often "Gee, this album is so prog, that even though the music on it is crap, I'm gonna name it prog masterpiece and rate it 5 stars!"


Edited by Asphalt - February 08 2007 at 00:08

Grand Funk is a 5 star band for me. But I can't give 5 stars to the Red Album in a site like PA. So I would describe their sound and give my opinion about the quality of the music itself, but explaining the reasons why the album cited above can't receive more than 3 stars in a prog site context.

I think when rating albums, it should be based on the quality of the album. Sure, it's important to keep correct labels and things like that, but we trust our collaborators and specialists to make sure that stays in order. If you rate an album based on how it fits the genre, you are essentially rating the specialists' job of including the band where they did and not reviewing anything about the album itself....and that's what I think is a shame. A review based on proggyness is insignificant and meaningless to people who are just looking for good music.







Edited by SolariS - February 07 2007 at 20:32

It's not my fault I don't like rock that's not prog.

I only look for proggyness in an album. If there's any catchy melodies or lack of grating sxf, I can it. I don't have time for that kinda music!

There are two different questions, in my opinion. The first one is: "Do you think this music is good?", whereas the second one is: "Do you think this music is progressive?".

'proggy' as in 'fitting the prog rock definition'? I guess that's pretty important since the rating scale specifies that it's being recommended(or not) for a strictly prog collection. So if an album isn't prog rock at all, however brilliant it is on this site's scale it can;t be rated more than 3 stars. Personally, I couldn't care less, as long as its good.

Snow Dog wrote: I think in a Prog site the proggyness of the music is very important if you are recomending albums or not. Even the star system here is technically judged by progressivness so I don't know what else you would expect really?

Does the "proggyness" really care (except that the reader is a close minded)? After all, when you're reviewing the music, you're judging its QUALITY, not its "proggyness" (or at least I think it should be like that), am I right?