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Done!!  unfortunately the rating I can't do away with.

Edited by Sean Trane - May 02 2007 at 07:37

From what I heard so far....................I hear U2.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Admittedly this is the only one I heard from Dredg (so I can't speak of the other albums, which I don't) but it is U2 copying. Everything here points to it.   Since Dredg is in Art Rock, which it isn't .  If you look at the date, this dates from two years ago, and most likely M@x did noy know of the band. This was presented to him as such and he accepted them.  But I do think that Dredg does have a "right" to be here, but in prog-related. This is no-more prog than Muse, dEUS etc...   So you only know Catch Without Arms ... that makes you a "dredg n00b". Before you decide that they belong in prog-related, shouldn't you try to find out whether the album is their most prog one? If you did you'd realize that it's in fact their least prog album ...

Sean Trane wrote: Snow Dog wrote: The Miracle wrote: I love you Hugues but this is very unfair and downright wrong. Review by Sean Trane (Hugues Chantraine) [Special Collaborator Prog-Folk Specialist] Posted 7:46:09 AM EST, 4/17/2007 Most likely another partisan inclusion from one of our collab(look here:Thanks to xhamasaki for the artist addition. It was a non-collab addition, check this thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9579&KW=dredg... and I gotta admit they ARE much more prog then Queen!), Dredg is unfortunately little more than a pale plagiarist clone of U2, with sufficiently few “differences” to avoid being sued by the Irish quartet. I actually had to pop the disc out to make sure that there was no mix-up at the library, but indeed there wasn’t.(O RLY? There has to be  something seriously wrong with me since I can't hear how they are a clone. Check Stonie's review above yours, he's a U2 fan but he doesn't mention them a single time) Not that this clone album wouldn’t make a decent U2 album, quite on the contrary: the songwriting in itself is correct and The Edge’s guitar is still as immediately recognizable as ever. Bono’s voice seems to slightly tired from the recent touring (his returning cunningulitis tongue acting up again, maybe?)(Gavin sounds nothing like Bono. At all.), while Clayton’s bass is not really loud enough in the mix. Only Larry Mullen’s drumming seems to make a decent competition of The Edge’s guitar.(whatever....) Not the worst of U2’s album, by far, but we are a far cry from Joshua Tree or Achtung Baby.(CwA owns the entire U2 discography put together, but that's just my humble opinion) Waddya mean this is not U2? Get yourself a life, willya?(Thanks, I'll try.) Next thing you’ll tell me is that this group was not a partisan fanboy inclusion.(This was a perfectly open inclusion publicly discussed and approved by Max, given that they are one of the best modern art rock bands IMO, and I reached this conclusion not from CwA, their least proggy album but from the amazing El Cielo and excellent Leitmotif. Next thing you'll tell me is that those albums sound like U2...)   Which dredg album is this?     This is Catch Without Arms. >> light green cover   Admittedly this is the only one I heard from Dredg (so I can't speak of the other albums, which I don't) but it is U2 copying. Everything here points to it.   Since Dredg is in Art Rock, M@x did not have to approve it. But I do think that Dredg does have a "right" to be here, but in prog-related. This is no-more prog than Muse, dEUS etc...       Miracle: I will rewrite the review (I admit this is bit of a rant), but please re-listen to this album with U2 in mind. It is IMPOSSIBLE not to hear it.   This album is plastered U2.

The Whistler wrote: Well, since my original question has been forgotten by time and space, I'll add a new one. Can one delete one's own reviews? Not simply edit, but utterly remove?

Send a PM to Atkingani or Easy Livin ... they'll do it for you

Well, since my original question has been forgotten by time and space, I'll add a new one.

Can one delete one's own reviews? Not simply edit, but utterly remove?

I love you Hugues but this is very unfair and downright wrong.


Review by Sean Trane (Hugues Chantraine)
[Special Collaborator Prog-Folk Specialist]
Posted 7:46:09 AM EST, 4/17/2007

Most likely another partisan inclusion from one of our collab(look here:Thanks to xhamasaki for the artist addition. It was a non-collab addition, check this thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9579&KW=dredg... and I gotta admit they ARE much more prog then Queen!), Dredg is unfortunately little more than a pale plagiarist clone of U2, with sufficiently few “differences” to avoid being sued by the Irish quartet. I actually had to pop the disc out to make sure that there was no mix-up at the library, but indeed there wasn’t.(O RLY? There has to be  something seriously wrong with me since I can't hear how they are a clone. Check Stonie's review above yours, he's a U2 fan but he doesn't mention them a single time)

Not that this clone album wouldn’t make a decent U2 album, quite on the contrary: the songwriting in itself is correct and The Edge’s guitar is still as immediately recognizable as ever. Bono’s voice seems to slightly tired from the recent touring (his returning cunningulitis tongue acting up again, maybe?)(Gavin sounds nothing like Bono. At all.), while Clayton’s bass is not really loud enough in the mix. Only Larry Mullen’s drumming seems to make a decent competition of The Edge’s guitar.(whatever....)

Not the worst of U2’s album, by far, but we are a far cry from Joshua Tree or Achtung Baby.(CwA owns the entire U2 discography put together, but that's just my humble opinion)

Waddya mean this is not U2? Get yourself a life, willya?(Thanks, I'll try.)

Next thing you’ll tell me is that this group was not a partisan fanboy inclusion.(This was a perfectly open inclusion publicly discussed and approved by Max, given that they are one of the best modern art rock bands IMO, and I reached this conclusion not from CwA, their least proggy album but from the amazing El Cielo and excellent Leitmotif. Next thing you'll tell me is that those albums sound like U2...)

Holy crap that was a pain in the ass to add. I had to manually type in all the musician information and manually add the time info. I'd been bitching about getting this artist added for a while, so what the heck. It's a wonderful mixture of musicians from the various genres of progressive music plus many most of us won't be familar with.

This was a prog supergroup. Steve Winwood, Al DiMeola, Klause Schultze Michael Shrieve, all united by a Japanese artist, say no more. The first two LPs (it was actually three vinyls altogether) far outshine the last one called Go Too. As I was entering the information, I was really impressed by the synthesizer credits. Really state of the art for the mid '70's.

I give it a 4.5, due to Go Too being much less prog, which rounds up to 5 stars.

Got to go work now. AnywayI have a lot more to say about this one, consider this review under construction.



I have only one objection about the first phrases: Holy crap that was a pain in the ass to add. I had to manually type in all the musician information and manually add the time info. I'd been bitching about getting this artist added for a while, so what the heck.

not really interesting or important to say.

kazansky wrote: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=44319 "First thing to say: I ve only listen to it once."

Hey, dude, what happened to my Stormwatch review? There's a hole in it. I stand confused.