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Tommy 
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 Posted: June 05 2007 at 20:51 |
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RUSH like Genesis should be removed. What is prog about anything they've done since 1980. They became a cheesy straight forward rock/synth band. Duran Duran were much better at it!
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Birdman
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Posted: June 05 2007 at 18:51 |
- Queen - I've always had dificulty with this band being in the PA;
- Iron Maiden - One of my favorite band, but out of place IMO;
- GTR - For obvious reasons...;
- Led Zeppelin - Is it really prog ? For me it's just plain old rock;
- Rainbow - Again, a bit out of place
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Et je ferme les yeux
Puis je croise les doigts
Pour empêcher
Les souvenirs de fuir.
(KERMESS - Atome d'existence)
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Tommy
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Posted: June 05 2007 at 18:27 |
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I think that Genesis should be considered two different bands, ie. Genesis 69-77 and Genesis 80-present. The Genesis 80 -presesmt should be removed!
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Kid-A
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Posted: June 05 2007 at 17:54 |
The Doors
The Beatles (all except Sergeant Peppers if that was possible)
Led Zeppelin
Iron Maiden
Queen
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toolis
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Posted: June 05 2007 at 03:50 |
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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Easy Livin
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Posted: June 05 2007 at 03:41 |
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I can't believe this thread is still active!
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andu
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Posted: June 05 2007 at 00:10 |
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^ I can't agree with you on your first four options - they were not added as Prog, so nothing changed about what this site defines as Prog. The reactions, however, were indeed out of control - discrediting many members' capacity to understand and accept.
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Trademark
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Posted: June 04 2007 at 16:16 |
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1. The Doors
2. Iron Maiden
3. Deep Purple
4. Led Zeppelin
5. Split Enz
This is a Prog site. The additions in the past year or so are WAAAY out of control.
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micky
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 21:54 |
 Atavachron wrote:
they were a pop band, let's face it
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interesting... I think you could say that is indeed what they
were. The focus was never the music.. but the lyrics... they
wrote songs to for mass consumption.. for the charts. Take
Jefferson Airplanes reaction when RCA wanted to to follow the success
of Surrealistic Pillow and it's radio hits... they recorded After
Bathing at Baxters hahahhahaha
Find me a radio hit on that . They (though not prog in my book) were artists not a damn pop group..  
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 21:43 |
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they were a pop band, let's face it
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micky
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 21:39 |
Atavachron wrote:
I was bothered by the Doors inclusion as well.. I
guess the reasoning is that they 'progressed rock' through Manzarek's
pseudo-classical lines, and the group's impact on psychedelia, an
important precursor to prog. At least that's what I tell myself
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thin... very thin indeed hahhahh 
they were too busy being known as a 'one man riot waiting to happen'
to have had any influence at all on what was to be
prog. That said...I love their stuff... Strange
Days is one of my absolute FAVORITES from that era.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 21:29 |
I was bothered by the Doors inclusion as well.. I guess the reasoning is that they 'progressed rock' through Manzarek's pseudo-classical lines, and the group's impact on psychedelia, an important precursor to prog. At least that's what I tell myself
Edited by Atavachron - May 30 2007 at 21:31
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micky
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 21:24 |
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last time I looked this was Prog Archives and they weren't even related..
or were they...
wasn't prog an effort to get AWAY from stuff like the Doors were
doing.. .or is THAT why they were included here. hahhahah..
I saw the logic I guess.. with Zeppelin... but still see no reason on
earth why the Doors are here. Oh well.... we fight them
were we can... and the chips fall where they fall I guess.
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The T
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 21:11 |
The Wizard wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
Wouldn't mind everything and everyone suggested so far being removed, except Kate Bush.
Deserves a special mention: Nightwish, Blackmore's Night, Trans Siberian Orchestra and Lacrimosa. |
Thank you! What the f**k are Nightwish doing on this sight anyway? We do want people do take us somewhat seriously. |
Though in this case I agree, Nightwish is not too proggy, and Trans Siberian Orchestra is probably the best cheese factory outside of Switzerland. Actually, when I heard their work-over (musical murder) of Beethoven, it smelled like Rochefort... 
(By the way, I was JOKING about King Crimson... my mind works in mysterious ways but I'm not ready for the straightjacket yet....  )
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debrewguy
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 19:43 |
The Wizard wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
Wouldn't mind everything and everyone suggested so far being removed, except Kate Bush.
Deserves a special mention: Nightwish, Blackmore's Night, Trans Siberian Orchestra and Lacrimosa. |
Thank you! What the f**k are Nightwish doing on this sight anyway? We do want people do take us somewhat seriously. |
Actually, I don't care if I'm taken seriously. I would like to be taken out for supper though. La Cave A Pape on your tab, with just my family & 120 close friends. "Table D'Hote" SVP, & bring us your most bountiful wine oh tood sweet!
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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micky
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 19:03 |
The Wizard wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
Wouldn't mind everything and everyone suggested so far being removed, except Kate Bush.
Deserves a special mention: Nightwish, Blackmore's Night, Trans Siberian Orchestra and Lacrimosa. |
Thank you! What the f**k are Nightwish doing on this sight anyway? We do want people do take us somewhat seriously. |
congrats on the promotion
easy answer to me... led 'frickin' zeppelin...
or better yet.... the damned DOORS!!!! hahahha
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The Wizard
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 17:59 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Wouldn't mind everything and everyone suggested so far being removed, except Kate Bush.
Deserves a special mention: Nightwish, Blackmore's Night, Trans Siberian Orchestra and Lacrimosa. |
Thank you! What the f**k are Nightwish doing on this sight anyway? We do want people do take us somewhat seriously.
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laplace
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 17:53 |
The T wrote:
I'd remove King Crimson. I think their prog affiliation is ambiguous at best. Actually, if you take all the prog elements out of their songs, you have pretty normal... songs.  |
grrrrrr
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andu
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 17:46 |
Didn't we agree at some point that there would be a lot more rest if we just removed The T? 
Edited by andu - May 30 2007 at 17:46
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The T
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Posted: May 30 2007 at 14:10 |
debrewguy wrote:
I still insist that Green Jelly do not belong here. Their album Cereal Killer is an insult to all grain related food by products. 
P.S. Oh, & I'd get rid of all the subgenres & set up a more simple division - Prog , not-Prog. That way we could include non-prog bands in their own section without going through the trolling attacks as to why King Crimson are not prog, but Uriah Heep are.
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You have not heard the soundtrack for "maximum Carnage", a marvel-comics videogame with music by that amazing band..... Green Jelly deserves a spot here... ......
I'd remove King Crimson. I think their prog affiliation is ambiguous at best. Actually, if you take all the prog elements out of their songs, you have pretty normal... songs.
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