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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 07:23
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

eek! what you are saying sounds 100% true on face value, but you are suggesting tantamount to eugenics - and that's scary to the power 100!


I have to say I agree - I never liked anything after they released 'Sweet Dreams'



Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

People aren't born stupid - their lifestyle, environment, education and society makes them stupid. We are still living in a victorian world geared to creating worker-drones in a post-industrial age that does not need them.


There's also the argument that in the past there would be a large mechanised war every 20 years or so to 'thin' the population down a little - who'd be the ones on the front lines...? The working classes - millions of them...

Of course I'm not seriously advocating eugenics (the whole point of this thread is irrational ranting after all ) and of course you're right in that social conditioning & nurture rather than nature creates what could loosely be referred to as the red-top tabloid classes... they just get on my nerves, that's all

I'm not a snob, honest...

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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 06:25
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

I swear if I go to one more R-rated movie and hear some kid crying I'm going to go to jail. If you can't find a sitter, you stay home. Those are the rules. It's not my fault you think condoms are weird. If you don't take your little failure-spawn out of the theater right now I'll punt it out. Then I'll go to jail, because everyone will have used their Censored cell phone cameras to document my "crime". People should have to fill out an application to have children


Absolutely! Such an application form should use as many long words as possible in its questions, and the required answers should have to be no shorter than 200 words; that will sort those who should and those who shouldn't have children -

People: we must desist from breeding the planet stupid; those who should have children are more and more choosing not to, whereas the ICBMs* continue to expand the population exponentially




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eek! what you are saying sounds100% true on face value, but you are suggesting tantamount to eugenics - and that's scary to the power 100!
 
People aren't born stupid - their lifestyle, environment, education and society makes them stupid. We are still living in a victorian world geared to creating worker-drones in a post-industrial age that does not need them.
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Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

I swear if I go to one more R-rated movie and hear some kid crying I'm going to go to jail. If you can't find a sitter, you stay home. Those are the rules. It's not my fault you think condoms are weird. If you don't take your little failure-spawn out of the theater right now I'll punt it out. Then I'll go to jail, because everyone will have used their Censored cell phone cameras to document my "crime". People should have to fill out an application to have children


Absolutely! Such an application form should use as many long words as possible in its questions, and the required answers should have to be no shorter than 200 words; that will sort those who should and those who shouldn't have children -

People: we must desist from breeding the planet stupid; those who should have children are more and more choosing not to, whereas the ICBMs* continue to expand the population exponentially




*Irretrievably Common Breeding Machines

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Points: 2492 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 17:16
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

hmm.. sounds like the 'Sex For All Citizens Act' we've been trying to pass here
We tried to institute that in America. Sadly, the proposal came too soon and the general public just wasn't ready for it. Talk about yolk on your face WinkLOL


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Points: 1497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 17:11
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Originally posted by Heavyfreight Heavyfreight wrote:

If you connect your DVD player to a monitor and speakers, i.e. nothing that has a TV receiver in it (most VHSplayers do) then you don't technically need a licence.  You can also get around the licence by using a battery set with a portable aerial.

I think a PC with an internet connection make you liable also
 
I don't think so.  A PC with a TV receiver card would need a licence though.
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Points: 2492 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 16:37
I swear if I go to one more R-rated movie and hear some kid crying I'm going to go to jail. If you can't find a sitter, you stay home. Those are the rules. It's not my fault you think condoms are weird. If you don't take your little failure-spawn out of the theater right now I'll punt it out. Then I'll go to jail, because everyone will have used their Censored cell phone cameras to document my "crime". People should have to fill out an application to have children
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I agree with darqdean about people in the pictures.  I was so annoyed last time I went, because a bunch of twonks to the side of me were busy playing with their mobile phones AND people were running to the lavs every so often!
 
This was at Harry Potter & The Order Of The Phoenix, not some upper-class twitfest Merchant Ivory picture with leading men that make Tony Banks seem like Keith Chegwin!
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Points: 401 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 13:13
Originally posted by Heavyfreight Heavyfreight wrote:

If you connect your DVD player to a monitor and speakers, i.e. nothing that has a TV receiver in it (most VHSplayers do) then you don't technically need a licence.  You can also get around the licence by using a battery set with a portable aerial.

I think a PC with an internet connection make you liable also

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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 13:11
6'6" with a perm?

Is that Ben? LOL
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Points: 401 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 13:09
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

^ so now the viewing public is so atuned to watching TV in 10 minute slices, they cannot sit still for 2 hours at the cinema without getting up to go for a wee or collect more 'kin popcorn or call their mates on the mobile to tell them what a cr@p film this is.Angry
 

And Natchos - why on earth do we need 'kin natchos with red hot 'kin cheese lava melted all over them and covered in over-sweet slasa while watching a film?Angry We're in a cinema - not at some Mexican themed bar-b-que. What's wrong with a packet of Maltesers and a Kiora.

That's why I don't go to the "pictures" any more. That and the fact the some 6' 6" t**t with a perm always seems to sit in front of me

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Points: 1497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 12:14
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Yes - even if we own a TV that is incapable of receiving broadcast TV, (ie no ariel - just connected to a DVD player) we still have to have a licence - and it is the dwelling that is licenced, not the occupant or the TV set - so when you move you need to get a new one.
 
If you connect your DVD player to a monitor and speakers, i.e. nothing that has a TV receiver in it (most VHSplayers do) then you don't technically need a licence.  You can also get around the licence by using a battery set with a portable aerial.Wink
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^ so now the viewing public is so atuned to watching TV in 10 minute slices, they cannot sit still for 2 hours at the cinema without getting up to go for a wee or collect more 'kin popcorn or call their mates on the mobile to tell them what a cr@p film this is.Angry
 
And Natchos - why on earth do we need 'kin natchos with red hot 'kin cheese lava melted all over them and covered in over-sweet slasa while watching a film?Angry We're in a cinema - not at some Mexican themed bar-b-que. What's wrong with a packet of Maltesers and a Kiora.
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Points: 1497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 12:12
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

When I was growing up I use to get wound-up by the zimmer-pilots who kept harping on about how much better it was in the old days - like when we were kids watching Top Of The Pops my granddad would shout at the TV - 'That's rubbish - it's just noise - call that a tune - we had proper tunes in my day!' ad infinitum...
 
...the trouble is...
 
...it really was better in the old days: When there was only 4 TV channels we actually had more choice - less really was more; Now they spend (proportionaly) more money manking a cheap tacky programme than was ever spent making quality programmmes; We would complain bitterly if they had the termerity to actually repeat something - now we have so many chances to "see again" and have "catch-ups" it's hard to spot when the new episode is being shown; In the olden days they made a programme and that was it - it started, it finished, end of - now they ramble on for hours with endless spinnoffs and behind the scenes specials, big brother on the couch, big brother's little sister's friend's mate's other brother, big brother's big pile of warmed-up leftover crCensoredp - yet there is not enough original content there to fill a half-hour programme! Reality TV??!!! If that's reality then why haven't I got a jacuzzi and a diary room? Bah, Humbug! Angry
 
 
...and you're lucky if the same show is on at the same time two weeks running.Angry
I must admit that I've nearly given up watching TV.  I just watch DVDs now.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 12:02
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:


SKY is a rip off, because you pay a hefty monthly subscription, AND all those channels advertise their &rse off day in day out. Every program is broken buy an ad break every ten minutes. It's a con.


Andy, you've just provided an accurate description of pretty much any pay television service here in the USA.  Even OTA broadcasts, while ostensibly free, are ad-supported.  We have something PBS (Public Broadcasting) which are fairly ad-free, but then they're always having pledge drives begging for money (the bulk of their revenue is from the charity of individuals, they get some funding from government but it's not enough).
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 11:49
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Do you guys still have to pay that broadcast license fee in addition to whatever the price of "cable TV" (set top box, digital, etc., whatever you call it over there) is, for those that have it?


In fact the TV license fee that we pay, only pays for the BBC channels. ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 are funded mostly by advertising.

SKY is a rip off, because you pay a hefty monthly subscription, AND all those channels advertise their &rse off day in day out. Every program is broken buy an ad break every ten minutes. It's a con.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 11:44
If you're on a University Campus, however, the rules are different.  You have to have a licence per room, because the rooms are classed as separate dwellings and they also have locks on the doors.

When I was at Uni, we just decided to have a communal television in the lounge, to save money.


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Yes - even if we own a TV that is incapable of receiving broadcast TV, (ie no ariel - just connected to a DVD player) we still have to have a licence - and it is the dwelling that is licenced, not the occupant or the TV set - so when you move you need to get a new one.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 11:33
Digital is free (on top of the Licence fee for just 5 channels), apart from the box itself.

Sky and Cable are much more expensive though.
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Do you guys still have to pay that broadcast license fee in addition to whatever the price of "cable TV" (set top box, digital, etc., whatever you call it over there) is, for those that have it?
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Digital isn't bad.  BBC 3 and 4 have some good programs on, especially 4, which has music shows on.

Then there's the old B&W films on Film 4 in the afternoon, although they do get repeated.

I end up watching BBC mostly.
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