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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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I've read some real good reviews here... and I just read another.
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=144966 Sure as hell am glad he's back. The damnest thing about it.... Mark is exactly right. Being a bit on the chinsy side... I have never really owned a nice stereo system. May have had something to do with who held the purse strings in my past life hahahhah. However with freedom, and my new home I invested in a good sound system. Last weekend we got on the subject of this album in Raff's thread on PM (off topic of course ![]() Cheers Mark.... and keep those reviews coming. Edited by micky - October 16 2007 at 16:53 |
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Atkingani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12291 |
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Fixed.
Anyway, you can PM me or Easy Livin' in case you need some help with the reviews. Thanks!
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progressive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 366 |
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I don't know where to post, but I think new system sucks.. Yes it has good things, for example that you must do everything properly... for example because you can't edit your reviews. Someone said that you can send the new version somewhere but I don't know where.
But here it is now (sorry for posting here but I reall can't find anything - and don't you rate my review, I know you don't like it. Problem in the old review was that my notepad's word wrap didn't work and I didn't notice it when copy-pasting):
It's hard for me to understand why this album has had so great grades. I think it's not like with L' Isola Di Niente, that I'll learn to love this. Yes, I like this, it's quite nice backround music, but in general, it's too light and neo progressive (neo italo) for me. (PS I say songs though there's no singing)
Quite boring, only for guitarists or boring music likers, and for those who like stupid landscapes. First track (La terra dell’acqua - I only mention the name of the song if someone's searching it) starts with lunar keyboards, goes to funkier fusion and after piano goes to guitar fusion. Boring, boring, boring. Well, it's music and I like the sound of those beginning's spacey keyboards. 1,5 stars (radical reflection) Il mondo in testa is happy, forward-heading, melodic. Nice, but picture I have in my mind of this is from some stupid film where this music could be. (PS Have I heard this sometimes before, or is it just so good that I remember it straight after first listening?) 2* La conquista sounds like Red Hot Chili Peppers, actually almost weird cover of one of their songs. But it goes more jazzy (funky bass on the backround - but it has no space or it just don't want to take a role, which I don't particularly like), and I think it has no heart, the riffs are quite weak. Then it goes to dreamy guitar solo jazz fusion rock and roll. To the end of the sdong, it grows faster and bigger. Very boring, once again. Maybe the only great thing is the solo and the sound of it right in the end, it's very refreshing (and it is a thing that some metal bands has used recently (eg Sonata Arctica in "Unia" and well, also The White Stripes (not a metal band)) 1,5* Il sogno di Leonardo - acoustic guitar, flute-sounding keyboards... Actually the instruments and the song sounds much like cheap elevator-jazz... or cheap music for some document or teaching video, for example. I wonder if everything is played with electric drums, bass, piano etc. But the keyboards or moog (Could it be moog? Well, it is. Quite clean.) are nice once again. Sounds like Gryphon's Lament or something in 4:25. I prefer Gryphon. Song has also old English (or something at the nearby) pastorial feeling with it's violin and guitar and artificial lightness... just like in some cheap videos. 1,4* Cyber alpha, basic guitar hero song, quite nice and short enough. 1,8* Agua azul has a beginning that I LIKE. I can almost think it continuing as a Air Metal song (You know, the atmosperic semi-acoustic "Progressive" Metal popular nowadays). Or as it was a Technical Metal intro. But I like the song like this. It's occasionally like Mahavishnu Orchestra but not so iritating. Maybe the main melody (at the other half of the song) is what I think is perhaps little bit childish or somehow stupid, artificially powerful, light and guite fast, maybe like a love song. Maybe it is that it's too familiar, like I've heard this before. 3* Nederland 1903. Not so disgusting little light song but the landscapes are something I can's stand. 1,7* I was going to give 2 stars but I give only one because I'm pissed. (Three stars was in my mind for a while but I couldn't give so much because it's not worth it) Edited by progressive - October 11 2007 at 17:30 |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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No apology necessary!
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24439 |
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I have to say I do agree with The Whistler. While of course I completely disagree with the guy's point of view on CTTE, I think he expressed his opinion in a very articulate, even interesting way, without trying to put down fans of the album as other people have done in the past. Personally, I think the review is valid, even if somewhat controversial.
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The Whistler ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
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Dude, that review is freakin' AWESOME! I like the life story aspect, and I the mention of the repetitious riff (dude, though, tis a sweet riff). I still don't understand why if Rick is such an overrated keyboard player (whose sense of fashion far outweighs his finger flashery), when then, did said reviewer name himself...well, you know?
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Publius84 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1043 |
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OK... I'm sorry for that...
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I know what I like and I like what I know...
Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul... |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Reviews without ratings have been discussed many many times. We feel the balance w have in terms of weightings is the best way to go. Let's leave it at that for a while, and return this thread to discussing individual reviews.
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Publius84 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1043 |
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I agree Shakespeare. But, for example "Quadrophenia" by The Who has 42 ratings, from which 25 are without reviews. Or Bacamarte's "Depois Do Fim" has 94 ratings including 55 without review. That means something.
P.S. Even from ITCOTCK 573 ratings, 313 are without review. It's over half. Edited by Publius84 - October 09 2007 at 17:44 |
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I know what I like and I like what I know...
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Shakespeare ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
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We've said this before, ratings without reviews hardly have an effect on albums anyway - especially those with many reviews such as the ones in the top 100.
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Publius84 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1043 |
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Do something with these Bratus reviews please. This is not ProgMetalArchives or, as Kotro mentioned, ModernProgArchives. It's pity to do the things like this.
I also think, that the option "rating without review" should be disabled. Many people just can't stand that some albums are higher than other in the Top 100, and they do everything to increase their favourite album and to decrease others. It's irritating. Edited by Publius84 - October 09 2007 at 17:26 |
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I know what I like and I like what I know...
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debrewguy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3596 |
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Read the last paragraph, then ask yourself what it would have taken the reviewer to give it a 5 start rating ?
I would think that a 4 star rating would indicate at least some "great highlights" scattered somewhere among the compositions ... ![]() XEN — 84000 Dharma Doors Review by progrules (Henk van der Hoff)
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Ricochet ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
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Is this guy (SWANEE
(Giancarlo Cesario)) ever getting the Admin PMs, telling him it's not appropriate to review an album by simply rating each piece. Cause he already has a record here...
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Shakespeare ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
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Wow I should really re-read my reviews before posting them.
"sometimes catchy and sing-able, other times incredibly swift and jaw-dropping-ly swift." That's just poor. And, anyway, Unorthodox is not in the top 20 after I have her a star up, but she did rise from 4.12 to 4.20. |
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andu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
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Great!
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Shakespeare ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
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Yeah, the promotion is happenin'. Watch the jazz page to see if she comes back in the top 20!
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andu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
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Yes it was in the top 20 before, with the former rating system which gave more weight to the number of ratings. I wouldn't argue about it, though, as there are a lot of serious people here who actually think Morrocan Roll is their best album.
So count me in favour of the 4**** (myself I'll rate it 5***** when I get to reviewing it, it's a fundamental album for me). |
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Shakespeare ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
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I'm still debating whether I should boot it up. When I started writing the review I had no idea what rating I was going to give it. The thing that really makes me sad is that because of me its no longer in the top 20 jazz albums! (or was it like that before?) That's just unfair.
I'll listen to it one more time, and then make the final decision. (By the way, I saw the GY!BE review and was very confused. Glad I'm the only one who spotted it.) Edited by Shakespeare - September 23 2007 at 11:26 |
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andu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
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Josh, your Brand X review on the homepage is great and I can't agree more with it... but it screams for a rating of at least 4 stars!
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Atkingani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12291 |
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Dealing with, folks! Thank you all...
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