Black Sabbath inclusion

 

It's hardly a scientific, or precise, clear  term, and you must have noticed that opinions on its meaning and scope vary widely. (It's not even a genre. It is a largely subjective value judgement, IMO.)

see above

 

Your sweeping statement would seem to give me carte blanche to savage all prog metal albums as being "not prog enough," and give them consistently failing ratings, because to me, the metal part of the equation always dominates, and I simply don't like modern metal. Others can also fairly rate all of our listed classic and hard rock albums quite low (whether or not they like them as MUSIC being beside the point, apparently), if they find that the "prog quotient" is less than dominant.

again....that is what I noted to Rushfan earlier in this thread. This site does not edit opinions.  We take the good reivews.. and tolerate the bad ones.  I think most of the readers can tell the difference between someone who savages an album for shortsightedness.. and those that are fairly written.  End of story.

 

Do you see the difficulty in trying to make one prog-centric rating system fit all of the listed music? If we are to review non prog albums, we should be able to review them as such -- as MUSIC.

 

I'm not just being difficult or cantankerous. I can "measure my pleasure" (never mind that image!) from a piece of music, but I honestly don't know how to measure "prog quotient." in any sort of objective, universally agreed-upon fashion. Do you have some sort of special tool for the purpose?

again Peter.. that is why we have such a range in our prog reviewers.. from the rediculously young... to the ...ahhahha... old and ancient.  A wide range of views... OF that prog quotient.. makes for a more interesting range of viewpoints and more food for thought for the review reader. No tool..... just what  I think.  The nice thing is... if you don't like my quotient.. there are scores of other reviewers that might match what you think and voila.... you have a reviewer whose opinion matches yours and one whom you might lean on for suggestions.

 

Your position is rather tenuous, even "dangerous," if you think it through. I firmly believe the primary consideration for any reviewer, of any album, must be "How much do I enjoy this MUSIC," not "How prog is this?"

it isn't dangerous.. just commen sense...  I don't give a sh*t about whether some cat I don't know likes an album or not. I want him to DISCUSS it..  Tell me about the album.. not how much is loves it ...or how classic it is.

 

"Prog" is not synonymous with "good," is it?

nope.... prog is synonymous with Prog Archives.. the site we post at ..and review albums for.

Most notable on "Who are You?", which is a pretty dull song

I guess my words weren't the right ones...I apologize... What I wanted my word to mean is, and please I hope I'm understood now: if there are people that, just because of BS inclusion in PA, think they have to leave PA, OK! We win. I never intended, NEVER EVER, to say "those who opposed BS inclusion are elitists and must leave". NO! I intended to say that people that can't take the addition of a polemical band and leave because of that are certainly not the kind of music fans I belive are better for PA. Please understand me. If you Ivan (and Atkingani, please) tought I meant anything against you or any other detractor of Sabbath, I APOLOGIZE, with all my respect. But I won't take back my statement that those who leave PA just because ONE band is added, well, they're better off GONE. It's like if I have left when Coheed and Cambria were added. Would I have been the right kind of person to help PA? Would I have even been considered for collaborator? No.

 

That's what I meant and please, TRIPLE apologies if you misunderstood me.