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Real Paradox ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 20 2008 Location: Lisbon Status: Offline Points: 174 |
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Well I think it is a very frantic album with straight-forward compositions and loud atitude...
But they have some nice lyrics that are rather...strange. I think it is a good album in terms of sound experimentation and lovely lyrics ,as well as very good guitar riffs by the way, anyways I think that it is listenable for people who can't take a owl album of mellow stuff...It should sound awsome played live,I don't think it is a very studio based album, The concept is good too and the line-up of the song are nice. |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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I agree with some of you all there.... TMV need a stylistic change-up... you can only take one too many blows to the head before you start getting numb and the overall effect... no matter how good.. is lost.
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Avantgardehead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
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Metatron is also the angel of the voice of God in Judaism/Jewish mysticism.
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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heyitsthatguy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 17 2006 Location: Washington Hgts Status: Offline Points: 10094 |
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/\ they've started their next album
they're calling it "their acoustic album" I guess you're in luck ![]() |
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Evans ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 3004 |
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Personally, i can't see how much more they can do with the sound their sound at the moment, they need some big change in direction for the next album, higher tempo and more noise just won't cut it in the future.
Maybe they need to give it a few years and progress themselves first, and then they can make a sizzling comeback album, Kate Bush style. I read somewhere, i thinkit was wikipedia, that their next album was supposed to me softer, more acoustic. That could be interesting. Edit: Wasn't ouroborous a snake who eats his own tail? Used according to wikipedia in a whole bunch of religions and mythologies as a symbol of something or other.. Edited by Evans - February 09 2008 at 09:42 |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24439 |
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Well, just to show how different each of us are, I don't really care too much for "Wax Simulacra", while there are other tracks that I love ("Goliath" being my favourite so far). That said, I can understand why so many people where underwhelmed by TBiG... It is anything but an accessible album, and it will take repeated listens to really appreciate it.
However, I think there is no shame at all in not liking it - the only thing I object to is to state that TMV are finished. Omar and Cedric are 32 years old, and TBiG is their fourth album... They still have a long, fruitful career ahead of them, and time to change and mature. |
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Evans ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 3004 |
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Thanks Raff! :) No detention at least, what a relief!
![]() Looking forward to your Bedlam review as well, too see if it can make me see the light in the darkness that is currently the Mars Volta.. Which is really strange, because Wax Simulacra is so great, i really believe that it is just a mental block which prevents me from liking the other tracks. |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24439 |
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Thanks a lot, Guigo!
![]() ![]() ![]() Since I listened to TBiG again earlier this morning, I can say that I don't find "Cavalettas" bad by any means, but I do think it is not as cohesive as other tracks on the album. Anyway, I'm planning a review in the next few weeks, so you'll be able to read everything concerning my opinion of the albums. "Asklepios" is not bad either, just slightly nondescript. As I said before, if I were to find the album's main flaw, it would probably be its length. But then, I am an unabashed nostalgic of the good old times of 40-minute-long albums... BTW, Evans, your Aerial review is GREAT! Maybe a promotion could come your way in the future? ![]() Edited by Ghost Rider - February 09 2008 at 07:14 |
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Atkingani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12291 |
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ABERINKULA
Several different types of drums have existed throughout the world, serving many different purposes in history; occasionally, natives from cultures which the drums originate, as in the case of the Yorùbá, used the drums for religious ceremonies and, since their introduction in Cuba in the 1820s, have come to be an understood and important part of the perceived culture of the southwestern Nigerian people. The drum dates back roughly 500 years, and is believed to have been introduced by Yoruba king, Shangó. Despite the previous long history, awareness of the instrument didn't spread until the 1800s slave-trade in which close to 300,000 Yorùbá natives were brought to Cuba. The religion and beliefs the Yorùbá brought with them eventually became the basis for what is known as Lukumí (or Santería in Cuban). This religion spawned the creation of the first 'sacred' Batá in Cuba around 1830 by a Yorùbá named Añabi. The Batá slowly became inducted into the Cuban culture after a time, and began to take on more secular uses: they were first publicly performed in 1935 in a broadcast over Cuban radio for purposes of folklore music. Uses such as this have grown as knowledge of the instrument has spread; more and more musicians not currently practicing Lukumí have used versions of the drums in recordings or performances. These 'non-sacred' Batá drums are called aberínkula--profane Batá (see Sacred-profane dichotomy). Batá drums and rhythms have started to be used in other genres, most notably in Cuban timba, jazz and hip hop. In the 1970s, for instance, a mixture of Batá drums and Big Band called Son-Batá or Batá Rock became popular, a genre highly influenced by Los Irakere. Skilled secular musicians made appearances in the United States throughout the twentieth century; the likes of Julito Collazo and Francisco Aguabella helped the spreading of such 'mainstream' uses in the context of Latin music. ![]() |
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Evans ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 3004 |
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No, i don't think they are any louder than they were on Amputechture. They're just not as good as they were on De-loused, is all. |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24439 |
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I'll get round to reading that Aerial review ASAP... I've just got back from the grocery store, and now I am relaxing with TBiG and PA!
![]() As I promised Evans, I've been listening to whether the drums and vocals really overwhelm everything else in the mix. So far, I don't really have that impression at all... The guitar sound is quite clear and audible, and Cedric's voice is not mixed higher than the other instruments. In my opinion, there a lot of vocal parts on this album, which is the main reason why the voice seems to be more prominent. A very intriguing aspect of this album are the song titles, which seem to have been taken from both mythology and fantasy literature (two things I'm very much into). "Metatron" is a character from Philip Pullman's The Amber Spyglass (which I've started reading very recently), "Ilyena" from Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time series, "Ouroboros" from a novel by R.E. Eddison called The Worm Ouroboros. Then, "Goliath" comes from the Bible, and "Asklepios" is the Greek god of medicine. However, I'm still at a loss as to what "Aberinkula" means... |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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amen to that in return... prog of ALL things needs to be 'heard' not listened to. It isn't pop for god's sake hahaha. and you aren't an old fart.. just blessed with what my Granny used to call.. good old fashioned common sense. If you haven't listened to a prog album at least 7 times.... you are wasting bandwidth with a review. |
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jammun ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
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Amen. DT for me is, to paraphrase Shakespeare, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Some will argue that's true of TBiG, but that's another thread, or actually this thread. I've actually listened to TBiG a few times now. I swear there's one passage that just reeks of Crimson's Sailor's Tale, mellotron (or whatever passes for that these days) and all.
One other point: I don't get why posters rush to be the first to review any given album. Particularly for progressive music, I find it often takes weeks/months to come to terms with what's being presented. If I dismissed any album based on a handful of listens, man, there would have been a lot of great music I would have missed out on. But then I'm an old fart still trying to write a decent review of Another Green World...
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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for me... DT came to encapsulate what I don't like about modern prog. Especially Patrucci's playing. Too clinical... overproduced.. and lacking the fire...passion... the warts that older recordings do have... modern groups with the digital recording....effects out the wazoo make for good 'sounding' albums.. but in the end, in some cases... DT in particular though... they suck the life out of the music. It may sound strange ..but that is how I see it and explain why I can love the hell out of band like ELP that were similar in many ways to DT. King Crimson is a good example of that as well... great music.. with with a few notable exceptions... a very cold... clinical band. Music is life...life is about passion. I like that in music.. ELP had it in spades.. DT does not. That is probably the biggest reason for me not liking.. what is indeed an incredible collection of musical talent.
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JLocke ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
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Yeah . . . Dream Theater's biggest error I think is that they wear their influences too close to the surfece of everything. If they were a bit better at burying their influences and losing them within the music itself, it would be fine, but more often than not I will hear something in their songs that completely leaps out of the music and beats me over the head with the name of whatever band that EXACT riff was originally from. Pink Floyd and Yes are the two bands that I hear the most when I listen to them, but I know there are more.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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DT has always been a bit of an enigma to me ...face it... what is the one band you can really say DT are very...very similar to.... yes... one of the bands I absolutely ADORE most... Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. Much of the same sh*t that is slung at DT... could..and has been thrown at ELP. Edited by micky - February 08 2008 at 20:57 |
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JLocke ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
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The ironic thing is, I just got through reviewing a DT album, then I come on here and read this
![]() Well, with me (as I say in the review, actually), it's alwaysbeen a double-edged sword with me when it comes to DT. At times they can really move me, and others it just seems like they are keeping score amongst themselves as to how many notes they each played within a milisecond. Truly a love-hate relationship for me.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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Raff has all the DT but Octavarium so I've heard them all but that one.... and since I really took more of an interest in PM since last summer ... I have heard SC. I bought it for Raff as sort of a gag gift for Xmas... and funny thing is.... we both sort of enjoyed it.
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Evans ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 3004 |
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Have you tried any DT since you discovered Opeth and Mastodon? Not that they are alike or anything, and i really only like A change of seasons by them, but maybe you had some sort of anti-metal barrier which was torn down by Opeth.. but who cares, really. It's just one band anyway..
Ah well. I'm going to bed. In a poor attempt to appear on topic i will say that i still don't get Bedlam at all. Goodnight. |
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