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BaldJean 
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 Posted: February 17 2008 at 12:59 |
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the opening of Tchaikovski's "Piano Concerto #1" belongs on the list of "greatest hits" for piano, other's being for example Beethoven's "Für Elise", "Mozart's "Rondo a la Turko" or Rachmaninoff's "Prelude in C sharp Minor". by the way: I just listened to Rachmaninoff's prelude played by the man himself, and this has greatly changed my perception of that piece Edited by BaldJean - February 17 2008 at 13:06 |
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Wallium
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 12:41 |
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I like Tchaikovsky personally, I recommend his "Piano Concerto number 1 in Bb minor Op.23"
If you know anything about Muse, you'll also notice how Matt copied this song in "Hoodoo" |
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Man Erg
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 06:03 |
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I would wholeheartedly recommend Henryk Gorecki's,Symphony No.3.It is absolutely beutiful.
Arvo Part is another composer that I would recommend without any hesitation.Check out Tabula Rasa,Alina Te Deum,and The Beatitudes Edited by Man Erg - February 17 2008 at 06:03 |
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
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Visitor13
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 05:56 |
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It is an incredibly beautiful music, that's for sure. And that site showcases classical music from other Asian countries, as well.
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BaldJean
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 05:49 |
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Indian classical music is at least as complex as Western classical music, and there are as many different styles as there are in Western music too. I am no expert for Indian classical music though. the complexity of Indian music lies not in polyphony as in Western music, but the rhythmic structure of Indian music is a lot more complex than the rhythmic structure of Western music. I must admit I would probably not be able to tell apart any of those different musical styles though. as I said, I am not an expert at all. I like to listen to Indian classical music, but without fully understanding it. I know the very basics of it, and that's it |
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Visitor13
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 05:10 |
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BaldJean
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:45 |
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well, the "mighty handful", as those five named themselves, tried to develop a music based on Russian roots alone, while Tchaikovsky drew his influences from elsewhere too. that's what made him the loner at the beginning of Russian music. and of course he was influenced by Italian music; he did not write his Italian Capriccio for nothing |
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Ricochet
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:34 |
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Ricochet
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:33 |
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Tchaikovsky is a "loner", simply because he's at the top and final chain of the Russian National School. He was, however, in contact with The Five (Rimski-Korsakov, Cui, Mussorgsky, Balakirev, Borodin), while Glinka was simply the first promoter of the Russian National Romanticism. Wasn't Tchaikovsky actually deceived by seeing what the music in Italy and France goes like? I think that made him return to Russia... |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:30 |
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That maybe so, but I still want to see a video of you playing it and doing the jiggy dance to go with it. Oh, I'm not saying Mozart isn't easy, I just didn't find the stuff I heard all that interesting to my personal taste. I'm more of a Chamber Music, 'cello, violin and clarinet type of guy. I love Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue, for instance. I'm still delving into Classical music and I haven't decided what I like yet. And I want to say one more thing before I eat my breakfast: Karl Jenkins' classical works aren't actually that bad and they're quite enjoyable, but I'll take his work with Soft Machine over it any day of the week. |
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BaldJean
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:23 |
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keep in mind that those drawings were made long before the existence of comic strips. Busch has not been named the "father of comic strips" for nothing. he lived from 1832 to 1908 Edited by BaldJean - February 17 2008 at 04:25 |
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BaldJean
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:21 |
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as a saying goes: "Mozart is too easy for a kid and too difficult for a grown-up" |
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BaldJean
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:16 |
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Tchaikovsky should indeed be mentioned; he is, however, somewhat of a loner in Russian music, since he was very much influenced by Western composers, especially Mozart. much more important is Mikhail Glinka, who was as important for Russian composers as Bach was for Western composers Edited by BaldJean - February 17 2008 at 04:17 |
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Ricochet
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:14 |
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hahahaha, what creative drawings!!
  btw, I'm still surprised how classical music is a thing of liking of disliking to many, just like rock, jazz and every other sort of music goes. Of course it's just me that's wandering, because I'm a classical music pianist, and classical music is the most divine form of music ever - so it's hard for me to emphasize much on "favorite" composers. |
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Ricochet
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:12 |
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heh, I'm currently studying another Hungarian Rhapsody, nr. 6. Very charming play. Sure, nr.2 is the most popular, but it's not all fancy dances and virtuoso fireworks, it's got a good grain of popular music, pianistic hand-work and musical expression.
Mozart is, in my opinion, very easy to be disliked. But, in a sum of ideas, his works are absolutely fantastic. And I can tell you it's not at all easy to play Mozart, it requires an accurate style and "weight" of expression (if you can understand). So, again, not just cracking simple stuff and playful music, but quality classical music. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 04:08 |
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I'm waiting to see Rico on YouTube playing Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2, that would be fantastic!
I also think Tchaikovsky could also be mentioned in a similar vain to J.-S. Bach. I've heard a lot of Mozart recently (I cannot remember any of the titles) and most of them I didn't really enjoy, to be honest. |
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BaldJean
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 03:50 |
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Bach is the great-grandfather. as violinist Hilary Hahn mentioned in a TV interview: "some musicians say 'I don't like Stravinski' or 'I don't like Ravel' (I have forgotten which composers she actually named, but the actual names are not important for the meaning of her statement), but nobody says 'I don't like Bach'. it is simply impossible". as to the "Hungarian Rhapsody" played by Lang Lang: he actually plays it like I imagine Liszt himself would have played it, even down to the posture of his body. this clip also very much reminds me of a cartoon by Wilhelm Busch (who is generally cited as the inventor of cartoons). I will add it so you will see what I mean: Der Virtuos
Zum neuen Jahr begrüßt euch hier
Passagio chromatico
Finale furioso 
Bravo, bravissimo! Edited by BaldJean - February 17 2008 at 04:20 |
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Ricochet
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 03:46 |
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It's quite natural, if he's a musician or very keen to classic music. I myself know the basics in Classic Music for a long time. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 03:42 |
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A piece I personally like (and I know it's popular and used on many advertisements) is Liszt Ferenc (Franz Liszt) Magyar rapszódiák No. 2.
An excellent version is by Lang Lang and can be seen on YouTube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru84UVcPHDo However, I mostly like my classical music with 'cello in, as well as chamber pieces. I also like Bartók Béla (another Hungarian), Prokofiev and Shostakovich. I plan to check out Webern and some other 20th Century composers. Oh and some of Edward Elgar's works are excellent too, such as Enigma Variations. And most people love J.-S. Bach it seems. Edited by James - February 17 2008 at 04:09 |
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BaldJean
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Posted: February 17 2008 at 03:25 |
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you misunderstood me. I did not mean to say Mendelssohn lived during the Nazi area. I only said his music was belittled by the Nazis because he was Jewish. and his reputation never recovered from that. Mendelssohn should be praised just as Mozart (indeed he is being called "the 19th century Mozart" by many). he was a child prodigy too, by the way. modern musicologists indeed tend to add Mendelssohn to that trio of Bach, Mozart and Beethoven (who are indisputable giants; one may not like their music, but giants they were) Edited by BaldJean - February 17 2008 at 03:27 |
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I also didn't include Berlioz or Sibielus because the romantic era has so many composers. And to those above who said Barber and those pushed the boundaries! Have you ever heard Elliott Carter? I would call him a genius (I do not like his music but I appreciate it) and his music is quite different. The term Meteric Modulation comes from him which is a three step process to change tempos (it's very interesting). 