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The Wizard 
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 Posted: September 17 2006 at 15:38 |
Lets see: the classic rock of Rainbow or the hairmetal cheese of Whitesnake.
That's a tough one!
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bhikkhu
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 15:59 |
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I can't say I am a Whitesnake expert, but come on. You couldn't avoid it in the '80s. They were just as cheesy as the other bands.
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Cristi
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 17:14 |
 The Wizard wrote:
Lets see: the classic rock of Rainbow or the hairmetal cheese of Whitesnake.
That's a tough one! |
Whitesnake - hair metal cheese?!  that's an exaggerated statement. What Whitesnake album have you listened to reach such a conclusion?
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Filmdirector2
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 17:19 |
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I'm going to have to say Rainbow.
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mdorovich
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Posted: November 17 2006 at 21:23 |
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Hey guys... I am a big fan of both rainbow and whitesnake... I always thought whitesnake was cheese metal until I looked deeper. I was just discussing this with my friend who is an accomplished jazz drummer and a big fan of progressive music and metal. He said that he saw whitesnake live in their prime and to this day it was one of the best performances and most talented bands he has ever seen. They had a world class lineup of seasoned, top notch musicians, at one time including Steve Vai. He said that people who don't understand often laugh when he says that... I thought they were cheesy too, except for one or two songs, until I recently heard 'Crying in the Rain' and also 'Love Aint No Stranger'. Anyone who has any interest in progressive rock or metal or _any_ kind of intense, blues driven music has to hear these songs... then try to tell me they are cheesy. I used to judge them by their appearance... it never occured to me that they could be mind-roastingly stellar musicians. Don't know about the Rainbow comparison but also a stellar band there. To me 'Stargazer' is one of their all-time greats, also a complete mind-roaster. Cheers and happy hunting.
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E-Dub
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 04:32 |
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I can't say that I'm a huge fan of either (although I have had albums by both bands at one time or another); but, anyone who thinks Whitesnake was cheesy 80's metal needs to listen to Slide It In. Cozy Powell's amazing drumming on "Slow And Easy" still astounds me. R.I.P., Cozy.
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R o V e R
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Posted: November 18 2006 at 04:39 |
ha ha ha
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rudderhead
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Posted: March 06 2008 at 11:59 |
Rainbow (all their albums are good). But I also like Whitesnake and dont I think 1987 sounds commercial at all. They may have a few ballads but the rocksongs are much louder than anything the old Whitesnake did. People only call them a hairband because of the image. I dont see whats so wrong with a lot of the so-called glambands anyway. Bands like Motley Crue, WASP, Cinderella, Ratt, KIX made perfectly normall heavy metal and they sound hard as nails. People just dont like those bands because of the image not because of the music. I think they sound much more HM than those lame thrash bands of the same period like Slayer and Metallica. Thats cheesemetal
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toolis
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Posted: March 06 2008 at 12:10 |
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true, noone can question the quality of the first 4 Whitesnake LPs..
but, Rainbow's first 3 are far more groundbreaking and, IMHO, better...
power metal owes big to 'Rising'...
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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rudderhead
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Posted: March 06 2008 at 12:26 |
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I dont see what Rainbow has to do with powermetal. Powermetal is bands like Hammerfall, Conquest of Steel or Jag Panzer I dont think that sounds anything like Rising. Dio may have some fantasy-lyrics but the music he makes is just ordinary blues-based hardrock.
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martinprog77
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Posted: March 07 2008 at 01:15 |
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Nothing can last
there are no second chances.
Never give a day away.
Always live for today.
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aapatsos
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Posted: March 07 2008 at 13:16 |
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Not a blasphemous question at all...
Rainbow by a bit... three first albums are masterpieces
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Philéas
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Posted: March 07 2008 at 13:49 |
Whitesnake. Hah!. 
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 08 2008 at 14:44 |
I'm no fan of Rainbow but I know all their line ups and studio albums.
The question seems simple, which one do you enjoy more, well does this answer your question..
I'm a big fan of Lovehunter, Ready an' Willing and Come an' Get It. I'm the only one of the family that discovered Whitesnake 'prog' part. Really awsome. Due to I love Mk 3 and 4 this is the result why I like Whitesnake blues/hard rock era. Having Jon Lord, Paice and Coverdale. Really great. Especially Ready an' Willing recomended to all if you haven't heard it.
From Rainbow the only album that I enjoy entirely is the debut.
Edited by cacho - March 08 2008 at 14:47
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 08 2008 at 14:51 |
The Wizard wrote:
Lets see: the classic rock of Rainbow or the hairmetal cheese of Whitesnake.
That's a tough one! |
Duh!! Listen to their first 4 albums, they're great. Well you can only really enjoy them if you're a MK 3 and 4 DP fan. Really cool and great.
Especially Ready an' Willing, i recomend you to order it, you'll thank me.
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Cristi
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Posted: March 08 2008 at 15:04 |
The Wizard wrote:
Lets see: the classic rock of Rainbow or the hairmetal cheese of Whitesnake.
That's a tough one! |
What "hair-metal cheese" are you talking about? Not even 1987 and Slip of the Tongue can be considered as hair metal. Does it sound like Motley Crue, Ratt, oison or Bon Jovi to you?
Your classic rock of Rainbow stops in 1978 because after that, not even I, less pretentious/demanding than many of you, cannot digest the Graham Bonnet and the JLT albums anymore (and i used to like those albums once).
All in all, i find Whitesnake's music more consistent than Rainbow's.
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Jared
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Posted: March 08 2008 at 15:10 |
Cristi wrote:
Does it sound like Motley Crue, Ratt, Poison or Bon Jovi to you?
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In all honesty, yes it does...with album titles like 'Slide It In' it can hardly be considered much else....I'm sorry, but Rainbow (esp the Dio era) were far superior to Whitesnake.... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Cristi
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Posted: March 08 2008 at 15:14 |
fandango wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Does it sound like Motley Crue, Ratt, Poison or Bon Jovi to you?
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In all honesty, yes it does...with album titles like 'Slide It In' it can hardly be considered much else....I'm sorry, but Rainbow (esp the Dio era) were far superior to Whitesnake.... |
so just the title of that album makes the classification as "hair metal" right? and that album is just hard rock with a bluesy influence.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 08 2008 at 15:23 |
Cristi wrote:
fandango wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Does it sound like Motley Crue, Ratt, Poison or Bon Jovi to you?
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In all honesty, yes it does...with album titles like 'Slide It In' it can hardly be considered much else....I'm sorry, but Rainbow (esp the Dio era) were far superior to Whitesnake.... |
so just the title of that album makes the classification as "hair metal" right? and that album is just hard rock with a bluesy influence. |
Sorry Cristi but I agree that since Slide it in to Slip of the Tongue Whitesnake was already totally glam metal (hair metal). But I voted Whitenake even though, having such an album like Ready an' Willing, none Rainbow album can compare. Then we have Trouble, Lovehunter and Come an' Get it really good to. I can't take Dio's voice, just in very few dosis like in their debut, and maybe but maybe n Heaven and Hell. Then Bonnet and Turner's era has some good songs but nothing special, and much less prog.
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Raff
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Posted: March 08 2008 at 15:25 |
Jared, I'm sorry, but this time you're wrong  ... I know both the album in question (and those before it) and stuff like Poison and Motley Crue, and I assure you they have nothing in common. I hate hair metal, but I do like old Whitesnake quite a lot. Album titles have often little if anything to do with the music within.
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