Reviews discussion

micky wrote: yes.... have posted MANY times on it....there is no set guidelines on it... do I wish there was.. damn right I do. For some of us.. we rate them as prog rock works. Some people think that is bullsh*t.. so be it. For those, like me that rate them that way, we recognize that our tastes ..our preferences are NOT supreme and try to judge the work against the whole of prog rock and recognize when the album is groundbreaking or significant within a particular sub-genre. See my Dream Theater review for example. other can.. and do rate them on whether they liked them or not. Personally.. i think the ratings on them, as you pointed out above are completely worthless. The site allows them, though I think of course that it shouldn't. But how the hell do you tell people how to rate an album. My solution.. which went down like a Led Balloon.. was to elminate the ratings altogether. They are inaccurate and misleading for all the personal standards attached to them. Not to mention.. to be frank.. I don't care if you or this person or that LIKES the album.. .I want to KNOW about the album. That is what an album review should be about.my two cents.

Ah I understand you very much indeed, hehe, now that tomorrow I'll be 14 perhaps I'll understand more and more things from you, won't I, haha..
Seriously, I really understand you, and what is important is the info about the album not about the like or not, in that case the ratings are rather worthless, they're just a matter of fun, for some..

oh, thx for the info... so about the subject have you read it, what do you think? (talking about the discussion EL wanted)

micky wrote: hahhaha.. Andrea is a he....not a she..

oh sorry!!! Don't know italian names... Andrea in argentina is for women... I was going to put he but I thought again and thought 'she' would be offensed being called a boy but it happened the other way round

Here's the deal, thx to Andrea's reviews, I noticed he wrote some reviews that surprised of the 5 star, but I read to the reviews and I was really convinced...
But with the reviews that I reported I really haven't been convinced not even by a hair, not saying that my reviews are great or good but still is something really annoying or something similar hehe..
Understand?

Edited by cacho - March 23 2008 at 15:58

Yes - Big Generator CD (album) cover      
Big Generator
by YES
From Progarchives.com, the ultimate progressive rock music website

Review
stewe      
5 stars These negative reviews I think are mostly predjudices of yes-purists. Forget it and listen to Big Generator carefully! I'm Running is one of the best, fantastic pieces of music in all Yes catalogue IMO. (even beside the very best music of them in the 70s) It requires a few listens, but it's insanely arranged, technically amazing, though very emotional. Adrenaline rush will come with the grand finale. Final Eyes is wonderful lenghtly ballad, with different parts, great changes and climax. It has the same intensity like And You And I or To Be Over. Shoot High aim Low is very deep and atmospheric somewhat heavy piece, with excellent vocals and soloing. Rest of the music here is more straightforward but always very well crafted music. So open your ears!:)

Yes - Talk CD (album) cover      
Talk
by YES
Review
stewe      
5 stars This is one of the most controversial and underrated of Yes albums. (similar case as Big Generator) This album is amazing by all means. It uses innovative techniques, shows one of the greatest skills of musicianship that was ever seen even in Yes standards. But most important are the ideas. This is extremely creative album, truly progressive (unlike regressive prog studio tracks of Keys of Ascension). Beautifully melodic, epic, psychedelic, poppy, heavy, mellow, unconventional.. every single moment has its place. It is truly emotional journey. Extremely varied, colourful yet tight and cohesive musical experience. Most of credit is of course Rabin's. But his team work with Anderson is the greatest essence, both creative minds enjoyed great time making this and it is clearly visible on the result! Recommened in the highest possible way to open-minded fans of progressive and rock music in general, as well as to musicians.


Come on dude, isn't this strange, that for 2 low yes albums, he puted 5 star, okay you may consider personal taste, but he's saying that these are the most prog albums from Yes... Well okay, I don't know if he sohuld be reported, let's see what C ans SC say..

Atavachron wrote: micky wrote: nice promotion there....a credit to the site indeed.  Calling it a diary  is being far too kind. We are held to a higher standard.. and that review would have sucked from the hand of the 14 year old trolls we attract who are empowered by having an outlet for their voice here.. and regailing us.. or lecturing us as to how stupid we are that this band is here... or how bad this group is..  what is there to edit.... delete the damn thing and tell him if he wants to waste his precious time again, he can write another review.  The site would have done the same thing from a general poster... and he should know better and be held to a higher standard. yeah, I mean why not tell us exactly what you think and give us a really good, juicy, well-written bad review instead of just taking the easy way

yep..

ClemofNazareth wrote: Atavachron wrote:  ^..  reviews aren't supposed to be diaries, .. Uh-oh.  You might want to stay away from some of mine then

never once have you put out bullsh*t like this in the guise of a review ...

'In the forum I once stated that in my opinion The Beatles shouldn't be on progarchives because it's not prog, it's more like the opposite. I got response from that remark like I expected from some die hard fans who don't like to hear such negative statements. Indeed they said, Beatles isn't prog, it's proto-prog so then it's allowed. Well, if you all don't mind, I stick to my opinion and to me this doubler is a great example why I believe The Beatles have nothing to do with prog.

These are just a bunch of highly commercial pop songs, simple and a collection of songs that caused my everlasting dislike for this band. And the funny thing is: when you say this to Beatlefans they always try to convince you of the fact that you are wrong. How can anyone dislike the Beatles ? I don't know, but I do, I'm sorry for those fans. Popmusic couldn't be more simple than most of the songs on this collection and I never understood why people went crazy for this. Of course it's always possible to say something positive about a certain kind of music. In this case it could be that they are popular tunes, true classics if you like but that's something else than good music let alone good prog (or proto prog, whatever). And of course also here rules the famous statement: a matter of taste and there's nothing to be done about that I learned.

I could bash every Beatles album with one star to get my revenge for the fact they are on progarchives (a fact I thoroughly dislike but have to live with). But I will not do so. In my childhood our family had two double vinyls of The Beatles and those were this red one and (of course) the blue one. And those will be the only ones I will review. I don't want to waste too much of my precious time on this band and will leave it at that. Lucky Beatles !

nice promotion there....a credit to the site indeed.  Calling it a diary  is being far too kind. We are held to a higher standard.. and that review would have sucked from the hand of the 14 year old trolls we attract who are empowered by having an outlet for their voice here.. and regailing us.. or lecturing us as to how stupid we are that this band is here... or how bad this group is.. 

what is there to edit.... delete the damn thing and tell him if he wants to waste his precious time again, he can write another review.  The site would have done the same thing from a general poster... and he should know better and be held to a higher standard.


Edited by micky - March 21 2008 at 19:28

Atavachron wrote:  ^..  reviews aren't supposed to be diaries, ..

Uh-oh.  You might want to stay away from some of mine then 

micky wrote: micky wrote: Guillermo wrote: DJPuffyLemon wrote: this review: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=162863 it sounds completely unprofessional. idk you guys make the call but it isn't flattering for the site to host something like this.   Yes. I reported the same review some weeks ago, and it wasn`t deleted!   Also, it is not the only  review for this album that has the word "crap" or something like that. now that Guigo is back from vacation... maybe he'll do us all a favor and eliminate that travesty of an album review.  thanks...to  whoever dealt with that.

Atavachron wrote: I think it's an excellent review, Mandy, and though I have many other bands I need to get, it did peak my interest and sounds like something I'd like

pssst... "pique"