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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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They are indeed. By God, you've obtained one of the greatest albums ever. |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24439 |
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OK, my search-and-destroy mission of today was largely fruitful, seen as I got home not only with Jakko Jakszyk's aforementioned album (which will make all of you green with envy
![]() ![]() That said, the Jakko album is indeed superb, and he deserves addition in PA immediately. The only thing is, where are we going to put it? Besides Canterbury, on the strength of this album I think Xover (or even eclectic) could be a good placement for him. I'm quite willing to do the addition myself, and will talk to Micky and Dean about it. |
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Poser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 121 |
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Alright, alright Deelain. Buy'd. Lov'd.
![]() iTunes doesn't have If I Could do it all Over Again...Or anything Hatfield. It's all because I broke a mirror. Bad luck until I'm 23.
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Leningrad ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 15 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 7991 |
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We've been over this before, you. Of Queues And Cures will basically change your life. If it doesn't, your copy is obviously faulty and pirated. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Do what rileydog said ![]() Get the first two National Health and Hatfield's debut as well. Get Caravan's If I Could... Happy listening! ![]() |
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rileydog22 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
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Get Soft Machine's Third. Immediately. Plus, it's a mere 4 bucks on iTunes! |
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Poser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 121 |
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Hi! I have $20 to spend on iTunes and I'm wondering which National Health album to get (to start). Probably Of Queues and Cures, right? Might be an obvious answer. Then what? I have In the Land of Grey and Pink, The Polite Force, You, Fourth and The Rotter's Club. Obviously I really like Caravan, Hatfield and Gong (so far). Should I expand on those or should I trial different bands? And yes, I'll trust a stranger's decision more than my own.
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Update: the Jakko album can be obtained in mp3 form through Amazon or emusic. Obviously not a preferred format for a lot of people, but looks like it's the only game in town right now.
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24439 |
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Thanks a lot to Dick for the album information
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Dick, I'm absolutely drooling over this description - sad to hear that the album may be difficult to obtain, but I shall be on the hunt for it. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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I couldn't agree more, however MisterProg2112 indicated that he had obtained some Caravan; I guess I just assumed he has this particular record. If I'm wrong, then add this to the list - essential Canterbury IMO. |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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I would add Caravan's If I Could Do It All over Agan I'll Do it All Over You, which I've always heard as a spirited challenge to Soft Machine pioneering Canterbury work - especially set against another favourite Machine's Volume Two - and probably as jazzy as Caravan will go until their reformation in the 90's. I really have a dilemma going for Volume Two or Third (and indeed if in a psychedelic mood, the eponymous Soft Machine album). Volume Two represents better than most albums of the period the transition from psychedelic playing/lyrics to more progressive flavoured music - however, by the time Machine reformed and produced Third, they had shifted into avant jazz fusion but with the temporary problem of Wyatt wanting to perform that gem Moon In June.
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The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS.
CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Excellent album - and but for Jakko's non-inclusion on this site you could have an interview I did with Jakko January 2007, which includes talks about the making of Bruised Romantic and it would have been my nomination as the prog album of 2006 - I was priviledged that Jakko sent me a pre-release copy in April 2006. It is a great double album, CD 1 is made up of Jakko's compositions, CD 2 largely includes a number of his favoured tunes as covers.
Line-up includes Gavin Harrison on many tracks, Robert Fripp, Dave Stewart (Jakko's colleague from Rapid Eye Movement), Hugh Hopper, Mel Collin (I also think - without the CD notes in front of me -) Ian McDonald, Danny Thompson, etc. - who indicate the Canterbury come Krimson flavour of the album. If you know Jakko's previous releases - especially those done in the company of former Japan members e.g. Kingdom Of Dust - that will give you a hint the musical style of CD 1. CD 2 (i.e. largely covers) brings Soft Machine, Henry Cow and King Crimson tunes on to one side of CD. Jakko provides vocals, the sometimes Holdsworthian guitar, and the less occasional flute.
However, it may be more difficult to get hold of the album, since I've just read Iceni Records has gone into receivership, although Jakko is trying to recover remaining CD stock. Also recommend Jakko fronting 21st Century Schizoid Band's Live In New York - although that too was released on Iceni Records and obviously has a strong Krimson flavour with the band's other members and the tunes covered.
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Three key albums to start: Hatfield and the North - s/t debut (The Rotters' Club is also excellent, but I have a slight preference for this one) Gong - You Soft Machine - Third Absolutely come back and let us know what you think - we'll ![]() |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Welcome back mon amie! I absolutely love The Polite Force - I really think it ranks as one of the best Canterbury albums, and to be honest I think Mont Campbell is among the most underrated (if you forgive the term) prog musicians. Have never heard that Jakko album but you've intrigued me - can you list the musicians who play on it? Maybe Dick Heath can provide input if he sees these posts. |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24439 |
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If you like Caravan, the logical next step would be Hatfield and the North - the band featuring Caravan founding member, bassist and vocalist extraordinaire Richard Sinclair
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Statutory-Mike ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 15 2008 Location: Long Island Status: Offline Points: 3737 |
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I'm really listening to a lot of different genres of prog now, considering I only came to this site listening to a limited amount of prog metal, and some 70s prog. Now I've been listening to a lot of Caravan, just the first band I've listened to from the Cantebury scene, and it's really good. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I should try next?
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24439 |
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Hello again, fellow Canterburians
![]() ![]() As for CD purchases, I recently got Egg's The Polite Force (which I already had, though not in CD format), and am planning to get other stuff. There is a store belonging to the French chain FNAC here in Rome where they have quite a good selection of Canterbury-related records, including something that still has to find a place here on PA - Jakko Jakszyk's The Bruised Romantic Glee Club, which I saw the other day at a very good price. Does anyone know the album? If so, would you recommend it? |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Pick up Hatfield's debut.
And then you're ready for what for me has been the pinnacle - National Health. You can get their three studio releases on a 2 CD set called Complete, although since you're in the UK perhaps you can get the individual releases cheaply - their first two are absolutely essential. That's enough homework for now. ![]() |
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TGM: Orb ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
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Exactly. Just been started on Canterbury myself
I recently picked up: Space Shanty - Khan (actually, had this one for a while) [Good blues-based album. It's a bit unfortunate that the vocals are awkward at times and I occasionally feel the material is a bit predictable] If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You - Caravan [Great music, I remember liking the organ particularly. I didn't enjoy Pye Hastings vocals as much as the next album's ones] In The Land Of Grey And Pink - Caravan [ ![]() The Rotters' Club - Hatfield And The North [did love it, but need to give it more listens to make a reasonable comment] Third - Soft Machine [A surprise, definitely. Very enjoyable jazz-psychy chaos all round. Not bad.] Also got to hear Matching Mole's debut [felt it was a bit light at times, and Robert Wyatt's vocals are too weak to suit the romantic material that well. Still, the jazzier parts were superb, especially Part Of The Dance] I'm hooked - Where to go next? |
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