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Poll Question: Who has the most versatile voice in your opinion?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2008 at 18:48
I'm surprised that no one brought that up yet more than I'm surprised he's not there LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2008 at 19:11

Daniel Gildenlow fits.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2008 at 21:35
Gildenlow bar none.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2008 at 23:48
Whaaaaat? No James Labrie?Shocked

jajaja, my vote goes to Gildenlöw!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 02:40
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Now that I'm looking at the list more carefully, I'm surprised that Labrie isn't on hereShocked


I think that every singer in this list surpases James LaBrie in terms of vocal versatility... Though I love Dream Theater!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 04:23
Russell Allen from your list follow closely by Dan Swano.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 11:03
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Now that I'm looking at the list more carefully, I'm surprised that Labrie isn't on hereShocked

I think Labrie is a good singer, but he's not that versatile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 11:16
I also wouldn't call Akerfeldt a versatile singer ... he switches between two distinctly different styles, but Gildenlow uses like half a dozen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 11:21
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Now that I'm looking at the list more carefully, I'm surprised that Labrie isn't on hereShocked

I think Labrie is a good singer, but he's not that versatile.
Agree!! and  in his early days  he used to scream like Bloody Mary!  LOLLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 11:34
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I also wouldn't call Akerfeldt a versatile singer ... he switches between two distinctly different styles, but Gildenlow uses like half a dozen.


In my opinion, Akerfeldt makes more than switch between growl and mellow singing...

Through the years, his clean vocals have improved very much, giving his singing a lot of textures and changes. This is more evident in "Watershed", where he even "break" his usually cristal clear mellow vocals, in songs like Burden or Hessian Peel. His double vocal harmonies are also very good, specially in the last Opeth release... And in The Lotus Eater, he has some surprising high-pitched voices. This is the reason I included him in this poll! Of course, in the first Opeth releases, his vocals were not so diverse.

Speaking about Gildenlow... I'm agree with you, he is incredibly versatile, and his vocal range is huge. But he sings almost the same in every Pain of Salvation album. Maybe in BE, he experimented with new vocal sounds... But if you hear "Entropia", and "Scarsick" later (apart from the caress of quality the last has...) you will realize he sings not really different.

This is the reason my vote goes clearly to Devin Townsend... His singing is different in every album he has made, and his vocal range in just awesome. He can create every type of growl (from brutal death to black metal...), and his clean vocals have an incredible range, with nothing to envy the Gildenlow's one. In my opinion, Townsend is the most versatile singer in metal today.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 12:08
^ still, Gildenlow has recorded theatralic parts, rap parts, extreme whining/whispering and falsetto screams within 2 octave intervals. Things which Akerfeldt hasn't done ... which is no problem for me, this thread is about versatility and not about how much we enjoy the vocals.Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 13:23
I can not believe that Russell Allen is doing so poorly. Have any of you really listened to him sing? This guy has an amazing voice and range. Not that the other guys are bad, but Allen is light years beyond them in ability.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 13:37
^ He's my favorite metal singer, but not as versatile as Gildenlow. First and foremost he's a "metal shouter", but within that domain he has an amazing bandwidth of expression.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 14:06
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Now that I'm looking at the list more carefully, I'm surprised that Labrie isn't on hereShocked

I think Labrie is a good singer, but he's not that versatile.
 
Labrie is my favorite singer... but that doesn't mean I think he's so versatile.. I just put versatility in a singer very low in my list ofd requirements.... But again, Labrie is not that versatile... He sings melody very well, he sings metal very well.. but don't aski him to get violent, or to "rap" (that would be a disgrace and an embarrasment....LOL).... He's not that versatile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 14:08
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ He's my favorite metal singer, but not as versatile as Gildenlow. First and foremost he's a "metal shouter", but within that domain he has an amazing bandwidth of expression.
 
I don't agree Allen is a "shouter". He still manages to sing, though he also shouts at the same time.... For true shouters, I guess we can go to the atrocious "singers" in most metal-tech-whatever-core bands like Dillinger Escape Plan... those people don't sing at all, don't growl, they just shout... IMO
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2008 at 14:55
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ He's my favorite metal singer, but not as versatile as Gildenlow. First and foremost he's a "metal shouter", but within that domain he has an amazing bandwidth of expression.
 
I don't agree Allen is a "shouter". He still manages to sing, though he also shouts at the same time.... For true shouters, I guess we can go to the atrocious "singers" in most metal-tech-whatever-core bands like Dillinger Escape Plan... those people don't sing at all, don't growl, they just shout... IMO
 
I have to agree. How one can consider growling singing is something I just can't come to grips with. If someone could burp sing effectively, would that make them a good singer? I've listened to plenty of Riverside, Opeth, and PoS. Still, Allen is eons vocally better to my ears. He exhibits a tremendous range, low to high. Only in the recent SX albums has he given in to the new vocal metal style, which I think does no justice to him. The earlier albums are the best examples.
 
This isn't about popularity of singers, or is it?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2008 at 02:56
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2008 at 03:21
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ He's my favorite metal singer, but not as versatile as Gildenlow. First and foremost he's a "metal shouter", but within that domain he has an amazing bandwidth of expression.
 
I don't agree Allen is a "shouter". He still manages to sing, though he also shouts at the same time.... For true shouters, I guess we can go to the atrocious "singers" in most metal-tech-whatever-core bands like Dillinger Escape Plan... those people don't sing at all, don't growl, they just shout... IMO


I know what you're trying to say. On my website I introduced two different tags: "shouting" and "screaming". I know this might seem to be an odd distinction, but consider this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo

It describes exactly what the Dillinger Escape Plan vocalist is doing. On the other hand, you often hear metal vocalists being described as "shouters". I think the most iconic shouter is Ronnie James Dio. Shouting is very close to (clean) singing - it's still very melodic -  but more pressure is applied and the voice becomes more "sharp" and - depending on the vocalist - a good deal of "grit" is added (for example listen to Russell Allen on The Odyssey).

I should write a wikipedia entry about these vocal styles!Big%20smile


Edited by MikeEnRegalia - June 19 2008 at 03:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2008 at 08:11
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ He's my favorite metal singer, but not as versatile as Gildenlow. First and foremost he's a "metal shouter", but within that domain he has an amazing bandwidth of expression.
 
I don't agree Allen is a "shouter". He still manages to sing, though he also shouts at the same time.... For true shouters, I guess we can go to the atrocious "singers" in most metal-tech-whatever-core bands like Dillinger Escape Plan... those people don't sing at all, don't growl, they just shout... IMO


I know what you're trying to say. On my website I introduced two different tags: "shouting" and "screaming". I know this might seem to be an odd distinction, but consider this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo

It describes exactly what the Dillinger Escape Plan vocalist is doing. On the other hand, you often hear metal vocalists being described as "shouters". I think the most iconic shouter is Ronnie James Dio. Shouting is very close to (clean) singing - it's still very melodic -  but more pressure is applied and the voice becomes more "sharp" and - depending on the vocalist - a good deal of "grit" is added (for example listen to Russell Allen on The Odyssey).

I should write a wikipedia entry about these vocal styles!Big%20smile
 
I find it very interesting that RJD was a shouter. Sure at times I can see this, but his vocal control put him somewhere between opera and pure pop (boy band) vocals. The 80's vocalists really seemed to go after this quality, especially with the Hair Metal genre. Another fine example of fantastic quality vocals is Geoff Tate of QR.
 
Shouter? I consider Henry Rollins closer to a shouter (i.e. Liar). He did not have a very controlled singing voice. In fact, he was not much of a singer, IMO. Devin Townsend bridged the singer-shouter. He could sing, but also chose to shout lyrics.
 
This said, Allen is near to never a shouter. He does have a ballsy quality. Super machismo type vocals. Like I mentioned, the more recent releases he abandons for the most part, his vocal style that proved his superiority in Symph/Metal Prog, and it extended beyond that. Comparing him to some of Prog's top vocalists should be strongly considered. The other choices in the list, not so much.
 
I am not a big fan of LaBrie, however, he also should not be discounted. His trained voice is obviously one that needs to be highlighted in the records as one of Prog's best.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2008 at 12:45
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ He's my favorite metal singer, but not as versatile as Gildenlow. First and foremost he's a "metal shouter", but within that domain he has an amazing bandwidth of expression.
 
I don't agree Allen is a "shouter". He still manages to sing, though he also shouts at the same time.... For true shouters, I guess we can go to the atrocious "singers" in most metal-tech-whatever-core bands like Dillinger Escape Plan... those people don't sing at all, don't growl, they just shout... IMO
 
I have to agree. How one can consider growling singing is something I just can't come to grips with. If someone could burp sing effectively, would that make them a good singer? I've listened to plenty of Riverside, Opeth, and PoS. Still, Allen is eons vocally better to my ears. He exhibits a tremendous range, low to high. Only in the recent SX albums has he given in to the new vocal metal style, which I think does no justice to him. The earlier albums are the best examples.
 
This isn't about popularity of singers, or is it?
 

I agree that Allen has a huge range, though I think Gildenlow matches it (certainly he comes close at least) but this poll is about versatility, and you need more than just a an inhuman range. Its why I didnt consider Allen, though I think he's a great singer I dont find him particulalry versatile, while I think growling is the only thing DG hasnt done, and he's come close to that on Beyond the Pale.
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