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theproglady ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 07 2008 Location: NY/Philadelphia Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Hi fuxi, and thank you for the kind welcome. You're right, I wrote "Riding Hood" when I was really referring to "Robin Hood." How confusing!
It also turns out that my knowledge of that guitar solo (one of my favorites) is equally twisted. Of course simply checking the album credits proves that it's Mike Oldfield. When I first got into the album years ago I just assumed complacently that it was Robert Fripp because of the sound and the layering, or even Frith because of the Henry Cow connection, but I never put much thought into it. A few years ago I talked to a record store owner in New York who is friends with both Robert Wyatt and Hugh Hopper, and when the conversation turned to that guitar solo I mistakenly thought that he was still talking about Hopper and I've associated Hopper with the solo ever since! That was a boring lead up, but the story that the record store owner told me is very interesting: Oldfield apparently recorded three takes of the solo with very slight differences. Wyatt liked all three of the takes so much that he just layered them all on top of each other, hence the cool sound. I realize now that the store owner was relaying a story that Hopper told him without mentioning Oldfield's name. I hope that makes sense. I'm not very good with names, and I'm even worse with lyrics and song titles. |
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Moogtron III ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
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Hey, that was one of my "two cents"
![]() ![]() Now that I think of it, isn't there also some military drumming in Song Of The Marching Children by Earth & Fire? I have to listen to that epic track once again to check it out. If it isn't there, it should be there
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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Also Tocatta from BSS. |
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24824 |
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Some parts of Karn Evil 9, Third Impression have a military mood. There is also some military drumming in the 'Aquatarkus' section of Tarkus.
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fuxi ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2488 |
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P.S. I just bumped into these intriguing lines, from a review by PA's own Raffaella, of National Health's masterpiece OF QUEUES AND CURES:
It is not easy to describe the individual tracks in detail, since it wouldn't do them complete justice. Two-part "The Bryden Two-Step" is very much a showcase for Stewart's skills as a keyboardist and Pyle's military-style drumming, somewhat reminiscent of the opening track of NH's debut, the magnificent "Tenemos Roads". Come to think of it, there probably IS some military-style drumming in there! Thanks, Raffaella! |
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fuxi ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2488 |
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Hello, Proglady, and welcome to PA! Which track exactly do you mean when you talk about ROCK BOTTOM? As far as I know, there's no guitar solo on "Little Red Riding Hood Hit the Road", the third album track (with all that delirious trumpet playing on it). On the other hand, you'd be absolutely right about the final track ("Little Red Robin Hood Hit the Road"): that really opens with a march-like snare drum (something I'd never realised), all the more amazing since it's played by RW himself, soon after he'd been paralysed from the waist on down. Incidentally, LRRobinHHR's magnificent guitar solo was played by Mike Oldfield - the style is unmistakable! Edited by fuxi - December 03 2008 at 05:12 |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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that track was originally intended as a single and then later was included on the "Gong Live etc." album (as part of the etc., of course) |
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Abilene ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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Thank you all for so many tips, I have to check them. “Abaddon's Bolero” is beautiful, I haven’t listen to ELP for so long... And this song reminded me of two others which are also based on bolero with some military drumming: Arthur Brown’s “Requiem” and “Mangos Theme, Pt. 2” of Blackfeather. Though I am prejudiced to neo-prog I’ve listened to random song of Explosions in the Sky and that’s true, there are a lot of drum roll in there. Such drumming makes me feel warm and that’s so useful in winter! |
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Guapo - Five Suns II
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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TOCATTA! |
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Abilene ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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It's good to know I'm not the only freak in town
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Man Erg ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 26 2004 Location: Isle of Lucy Status: Offline Points: 7456 |
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I believe that there is some military drumming on Camel's Nimrodel (Mirage album) The Enid's In the Region of the Summer Stars title track and on Peter Hammill's Imperial Walls (PH7 Album)
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theproglady ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 07 2008 Location: NY/Philadelphia Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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I've always been a sucker for that "military drumming" sound too, although I'm not exactly sure why. I really like what I call "little drummer boy" type drumming--again, not sure why.
I like how someone mentioned "The White Ship" by HP Lovecraft. That's a really good one. My favorite example without a doubt is "Little Red Riding Hood Hit the Road" on Robert Wyatt's ROCK BOTTOM album. Coincidentally that song is also centered around one of my favorite guitar solos (Hugh Hopper playing over himself). |
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Dim ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
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Nail on the head.
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crimson87 ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1818 |
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There is some military drumming in Brain Salad Surgery.... but I can't remember where , guess I have to listen to it again
![]() And of course "Abbadon's Bolero"
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Bitterblogger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 04 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1719 |
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Parts of "Tank", especially on Works, Volume One.
A bit of "Future Times" on Yes' Tormato.
"Bolero" from Lizard.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I still say you can't beat Explosions In The Sky
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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moe_blunts ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2008 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 617 |
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There is an entire genre called Martial Industrial, Der Blutharsch being my favorite. Also, neofolk can have a lot of industrial drumming. I recommend the band Rome
Also, the black metal band Summoning - http://www.myspace.com/upthehammers Edited by moe_blunts - December 01 2008 at 18:26 |
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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If you enjoyed Harvest of Souls by IQ with the 9/8 Apocalypse section then why not Grendel by Marillion?
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The Whistler ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
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Jethro Tull's "The Whistler," Songs From the Wood, has some pretty martial drumming. So does "Crawling King Snake" off The Doors' LA Woman (if you don't mind a bit of blues).
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