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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:38
Hi fuxi, and thank you for the kind welcome. You're right, I wrote "Riding Hood" when I was really referring to "Robin Hood." How confusing!

It also turns out that my knowledge of that guitar solo (one of my favorites) is equally twisted. Of course simply checking the album credits proves that it's Mike Oldfield. When I first got into the album years ago I just assumed complacently that it was Robert Fripp because of the sound and the layering, or even Frith because of the Henry Cow connection, but I never put much thought into it. A few years ago I talked to a record store owner in New York who is friends with both Robert Wyatt and Hugh Hopper, and when the conversation turned to that guitar solo I mistakenly thought that he was still talking about Hopper and I've associated Hopper with the solo ever since! That was a boring lead up, but the story that the record store owner told me is very interesting: Oldfield apparently recorded three takes of the solo with very slight differences. Wyatt liked all three of the takes so much that he just layered them all on top of each other, hence the cool sound. I realize now that the store owner was relaying a story that Hopper told him without mentioning Oldfield's name. I hope that makes sense. I'm not very good with names, and I'm even worse with lyrics and song titles.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2008 at 09:51
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

 
There is also some military drumming in the 'Aquatarkus' section of Tarkus.

Hey, that was one of my "two cents" Wink LOL as they say here. Yes, I think that Aquatarkus is one of the greatest examples of military drumming in prog, especially because, how proggish, an earlier theme is coming back in another way: the military drumming in that respect stands out, draws more attention to itself. Even the title (Aquatarkus) is a variation on an earlier title (Tarkus). The "aqua" is there probably because poor Tarkus (the loser) has been pushed back in the water by the Manticore. A military clash indeed.
 
Now that I think of it, isn't there also some military drumming in Song Of The Marching Children by Earth & Fire? I have to listen to that epic track once again to check it out. If it isn't there, it should be there Smile, because of the title and the content.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2008 at 09:22
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Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

There is some military drumming in Brain Salad Surgery.... but I can't remember where , guess I have to listen to it againBig smile 
 
And of course "Abbadon's Bolero"
 
Some parts of Karn Evil 9, Third Impression have a military mood. There is also some military drumming in the 'Aquatarkus' section of Tarkus.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2008 at 09:16
Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

There is some military drumming in Brain Salad Surgery.... but I can't remember where , guess I have to listen to it againBig smile 
 
And of course "Abbadon's Bolero"
 
Some parts of Karn Evil 9, Third Impression have a military mood. There is also some military drumming in the 'Aquatarkus' section of Tarkus.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2008 at 09:01
P.S. I just bumped into these intriguing lines, from a review by PA's own Raffaella, of National Health's masterpiece OF QUEUES AND CURES:

It is not easy to describe the individual tracks in detail, since it wouldn't do them complete justice. Two-part "The Bryden Two-Step" is very much a showcase for Stewart's skills as a keyboardist and Pyle's military-style drumming, somewhat reminiscent of the opening track of NH's debut, the magnificent "Tenemos Roads".

Come to think of it, there probably IS some military-style drumming in there! Thanks, Raffaella!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2008 at 05:11
Originally posted by theproglady theproglady wrote:

I've always been a sucker for that "military drumming" sound too, although I'm not exactly sure why. I really like what I call "little drummer boy" type drumming--again, not sure why.I like how someone mentioned "The White Ship" by HP Lovecraft. That's a really good one. My favorite example without a doubt is "Little Red Riding Hood Hit the Road" on Robert Wyatt's ROCK BOTTOM album. Coincidentally that song is also centered around one of my favorite guitar solos (Hugh Hopper playing over himself).


Hello, Proglady, and welcome to PA! Which track exactly do you mean when you talk about ROCK BOTTOM? As far as I know, there's no guitar solo on "Little Red Riding Hood Hit the Road", the third album track (with all that delirious trumpet playing on it). On the other hand, you'd be absolutely right about the final track ("Little Red Robin Hood Hit the Road"): that really opens with a march-like snare drum (something I'd never realised), all the more amazing since it's played by RW himself, soon after he'd been paralysed from the waist on down. Incidentally, LRRobinHHR's magnificent guitar solo was played by Mike Oldfield - the style is unmistakable!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2008 at 04:22
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

There's exciting military-style drumming (by none other than the great Pierre Moerlen!) on the anarchic 'Ooby-Scooby Doomsday', one of the bonus tracks on the 2004 digital remaster of one of Gong's most enjoyable albums, ANGEL'S EGG.

that track was originally intended as a single and then later was included on the "Gong Live etc." album (as part of the etc., of course)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 12:54

Thank you all for so many tips, I have to check them. “Abaddon's Bolero” is beautiful, I haven’t listen to ELP for so long... And this song reminded me of two others which are also based on bolero with some military drumming: Arthur Brown’s “Requiem” and “Mangos Theme, Pt. 2” of Blackfeather.

Though I am prejudiced to neo-prog I’ve listened to random song of Explosions in the Sky and that’s true, there are a lot of drum roll in there. Such drumming makes me feel warm and that’s so useful in winter! Tongue Quite nice music after all, it reminds me of Sigur Ros.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 12:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:58
Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

There is some military drumming in Brain Salad Surgery.... but I can't remember where , guess I have to listen to it againBig smile 
 
And of course "Abbadon's Bolero"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:56
Originally posted by theproglady theproglady wrote:

I've always been a sucker for that "military drumming" sound too, although I'm not exactly sure why. I really like what I call "little drummer boy" type drumming--again, not sure why.
 
It's good to know I'm not the only freak in town Wink  And "little drummer boy" is a proper term. I think military drumming brings me special kind of excitement, joy or fear - I am not sure LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 02:15
I believe that there is some military drumming on Camel's Nimrodel (Mirage album) The Enid's In the Region of the Summer Stars title track and on Peter Hammill's Imperial Walls (PH7 Album)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 01:58
I've always been a sucker for that "military drumming" sound too, although I'm not exactly sure why. I really like what I call "little drummer boy" type drumming--again, not sure why.

I like how someone mentioned "The White Ship" by HP Lovecraft. That's a really good one. My favorite example without a doubt is "Little Red Riding Hood Hit the Road" on Robert Wyatt's ROCK BOTTOM album. Coincidentally that song is also centered around one of my favorite guitar solos (Hugh Hopper playing over himself).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2008 at 21:11
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Explosions In The  Sky, just about every song. LOL
 
Nail on the head.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2008 at 20:34
There is some military drumming in Brain Salad Surgery.... but I can't remember where , guess I have to listen to it againBig smile 
 
And of course "Abbadon's Bolero"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2008 at 19:47
Parts of "Tank", especially on Works, Volume One.
A bit of "Future Times" on Yes' Tormato.
"Bolero" from Lizard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2008 at 18:45
I still say you can't beat Explosions In The Sky Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2008 at 18:25
There is an entire genre called Martial Industrial, Der Blutharsch being my favorite.  Also, neofolk can have a lot of industrial drumming.  I recommend the band Rome

Also, the black metal band Summoning - http://www.myspace.com/upthehammers




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2008 at 18:23
If you enjoyed Harvest of Souls by IQ with the 9/8 Apocalypse section then why not Grendel by Marillion?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2008 at 18:18
Jethro Tull's "The Whistler," Songs From the Wood, has some pretty martial drumming. So does "Crawling King Snake" off The Doors' LA Woman (if you don't mind a bit of blues).
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