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Points: 61 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2008 at 17:41
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

I hate ppl who use bbrvtns that are nknwn to me. Wink

Well, like how do you feel about people who like use like too much, or is that like totally passe now? Tongue

By the way, Petrucci, I see by your profile you are 55 years old.  Keep getting held back from passing on to the next grade? LOL  So, are you only as old as you are young or as young as you are old?

I was a teen back in the late '70's when I first became a prog nut.  It really was about the same back then.  Maybe not as bad.
 
 
lol I'm actually 15, but I just thought that Putting Joe Satriani's birth date and age would be awesome. idk, I was weird back when I made this. XD
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^Dude, Joe Satriani is 52 years old, he was actually born on the 15th of July, 1956LOL
That's still awesome, sorta, since he is one of my favorite guitarists of all timeBig smile
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

^Dude, Joe Satriani is 52 years old, he was actually born on the 15th of July, 1956LOL
That's still awesome, sorta, since he is one of my favorite guitarists of all timeBig smile
 
Ohh, psh, OK, didn't know that, thanks XD
 
Yay! He's younger than I thought! ^_^
lol
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Points: 16715 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2008 at 18:33
Oh god, not this thread again. And we wonder why people think we're pretentious...
 
Backstreet Boys vs Led Zeppelin is not a valid comparison in any way. And to the rest of the post: idk my bff jill
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Yay! He's younger than I thought! ^_^
Please don't make that face again.
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I am more frustrated by my teenage in-laws.

If a song (even a good song, say something from Queen or Led Zeppelin) isn't on a movie or television program produced by Disney or covered on American Idol (or some such thing), it is unknown to them.  And then when they hear it, it's like, totally, the best song EVER!

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That makes me even more angry than all of the other music they listen too. It seems my brother hasn't realized Pink Floyd made more songs other than Money, Brain Damage, and Another Brick In the Wall, pt. 2Confused
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Points: 67468 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2008 at 18:54
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by PetrucciPal PetrucciPal wrote:

 
Yay! He's younger than I thought! ^_^
Please don't make that face again.

I think that face is so cute that I hereby quote it. ^_^
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Points: 1698 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2008 at 19:31
Well sir, you certainly are not alone. I am in high school right now and I must be the only person in all 1000 people here (small school) that enjoys prog music. Yes it does drive me nuts when the girls talk about the song on the radio that's so great and that I'm constantly subjected to the uber-loud bass of rap lovers in the parking lot. However, you gotta realize that people just aren't into music, so why would they go out of their way to look up some good stuff, when they have stuff that they enjoy listening to the couple times they listen a day?
 
Wasn't there a poll recently where the biggest demographic here was teenagers from the US? I'll have to look that one up.

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Points: 1818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2008 at 19:49

A writer in my country once said that all things we do are in order to score and if I take that into account well , you can't start interesting conversations with women with prog as a subject.

Music is just to get laid nowadays.
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I think music is fun, and that's why I listen to it. Not for any scene, self-satisfaction, self-righteousness, fulfilling a fetish for music theory, etc., just fun.
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Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

I think music is fun, and that's why I listen to it. Not for any scene, self-satisfaction, self-righteousness, fulfilling a fetish for music theory, etc., just fun.


Yes and in that sense, we are not really different from the people who are "accused" on this thread of listening to music for fun - why should we be different anyway?  I haven't met anybody else in my city who likes 70s prog so much and though I have misanthropic tendencies, I wouldn't pursue a genre of music only to fulfill some bizarre narcissist motives.  From the first time I listened to Aqualung/ Firth of the Fifth/ Experience/ Karn Evil 9 I knew I was enjoying myself like I had hardly ever before and that's the one thing that makes me pursue this form of music. I like it and why do I care who else does and does not?
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Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

A writer in my country once said that all things we do are in order to score and if I take that into account well , you can't start interesting conversations with women with prog as a subject.

Music is just to get laid nowadays.


And has been for a long time ...
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Points: 3596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 11:04
Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

I think music is fun, and that's why I listen to it. Not for any scene, self-satisfaction, self-righteousness, fulfilling a fetish for music theory, etc., just fun.


I don't know. How long can we allow people the option of listening to music that they like ? What's next - letting them enjoy the Kids in the Hall over James Joyce ? The McLaughlin group over the View ?
Can't we kill a few people so that we end with a majority who listen to music that we judge of appropriate quality and value ?

Oh no, wait ... what am I saying ... that would leave very few RIO/Avant-Gardeners ...
Good music = listener's enjoyment .
I am now going back to Tales of Topographic Tales to see if Steve Howe should have fought harder to play that G7 instead of the Gmajor that Jon Anderson insisted upon. Now where was that ?
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 12:28
Some people simply do not enjoy the prog aesthetic. Being progressive does that make a song or artist good or inherently better than one that is not. It's a dangerous trap to fall into, and I too did it at your age when I first got into prog and discovered this site. While those bands your mentioned are pretty much atrocious to anyone who isn't 15, there's plenty of sophisticated non-prog music. I'd take a band like Thrice over 90% of the bands included here. 

Personally with my all prog attitude I burnt myself out on music completely for about 6 months, until I branched out into other genres which made music come alive again. I would predict the same thing will happen to you.

Also, if you think the scream at the end of Octavarium is something special, you really need to listen to Envy.
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Points: 83 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 13:34
Too many associate 'long songs' with rubbish, apparently if it demands your attention for more than 3 minutes it isn't worthy of your attention. I had a discussion with a mate who refused Opeth because they write 'boring songs' and then proceded to extol the virtues of Bring Me The Horizon.

Prog's image is the problem, not the music. After I played a friend shorter Porcupine Tree songs he fell in love with them and now even listens to the 'more demanding' stuff (yes, I frequently remind him PT isn't demanding listening).

Kids like sh*tty stuff because everyone else does; they don't branch out because they're afraid of being called weird......
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Points: 61 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 13:36
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Oh god, not this thread again. And we wonder why people think we're pretentious...
 
Backstreet Boys vs Led Zeppelin is not a valid comparison in any way. And to the rest of the post: idk my bff jill
Originally posted by PetrucciPal PetrucciPal wrote:

 
Yay! He's younger than I thought! ^_^
Please don't make that face again.
 
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But it's amazing. lol
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 13:37
I don't really think its the image. It's just exposure. 

And what is wrong with Bring Me The Horizon.
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I don't really think its the image. It's just exposure. 

And what is wrong with Bring Me The Horizon.
 
It's probably a little bit of both.
 
My 11 year old sister only likes rap because she thinks everybody else does and she thinks it'll get her popular in school. It's pretty sad, really -_-
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2008 at 13:49
Well why would you expect an 11 year old to have a strongly formed opinion on anything. Honestly music is a very powerful, personal, and intricate thing. To expect young people to be able to intake information and make informed musical decisions is really as unrealistic as expecting them to do the same with respect to political or medical decision. 
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Well why would you expect an 11 year old to have a strongly formed opinion on anything. Honestly music is a very powerful, personal, and intricate thing. To expect young people to be able to intake information and make informed musical decisions is really as unrealistic as expecting them to do the same with respect to political or medical decision. 
 
 
Well, idk. I had a strong opinion on music when I was 11. That's when I first got into Rush ^_~
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