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Points: 53 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2009 at 11:52
Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Just an observation:
 
Most of Rubber Soul has been included. Surely underlines its importance as a proto-prog album.
 
 I think it's because many of the tracks have a hippie type vibe to them like the "The Word", "Think For Yourself" and ("Norwegian Wood") psychedelic folk?  Then there are the  European folk influences of  "Girl", and the sped up baroque sounding keyboard solo of "In My Life".  I can see why Brian Wilson and Brian Jones were influenced by this album.
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Points: 53 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2009 at 11:44
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Another recommendation to add is Captain Beefheart's A&M sessions from 1965,sadly not on PAs

Tracklist -
Diddy Wah Diddy
Who Do You Think You're Fooling
Moonchild
Frying Pan
Here I Am I Always Am

 
These sessions were recorded in early 1966.


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The Easybeats - Friday On My Mind (1966)
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Points: 7456 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2009 at 06:13
Another recommendation to add is Captain Beefheart's A&M sessions from 1965,sadly not on PAs

Tracklist -
Diddy Wah Diddy
Who Do You Think You're Fooling
Moonchild
Frying Pan
Here I Am I Always Am


Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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The 13.40 long suite from Fistful of Dollars by Ennio Morricone has all you can dream of in a prog-epic.  A masterpiece!



Morricone has loads that could pass for prog of numerous subgenres, though.
Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Just an observation:
 
Most of Rubber Soul has been included. Surely underlines its importance as a proto-prog album.


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Originally posted by weetabix weetabix wrote:

 
Telstar w/ the Tornados
  
 
Discussed and added as per above.
 
 
Originally posted by weetabix weetabix wrote:

....my money is on The early Jefferson Airplane surrealistic pillow stuff.
 
Jefferson Airplane only just made to the list with some pre '66 stuff. By default, a few songs off their debut has already been added to the playlist.


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Originally posted by Odisseos Odisseos wrote:

J.S.Bach's Brandemburg Concerto #5, allegro #2 with a killer harpsicord solo
 
LOL.......Ermm
 
First I laughed, next I asked myself why not. Had the harpsichord been added to a rock/blues/R&B/R'n'R context, then perhaps yes. The mixing of classical music (technology) with other (moden) genres being the key of course.
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Dave Berry and "The crying game" comes to mind and Twinkle w/ "Terry"                                                             but my money is on The early Jefferson Airplane surrealistic pillow stuff.
The Beau Brummels Laugh Laugh.
 
Telstar w/ the Tornados
 
Last but not least my earliest recolection of prog goes to 1959 Tracey Pendarvis and "Thousand guitars"
 
                                                                                                                                                           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-paz1hfSc0
 
And this bloke                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCzjBZABec4&feature=related
 
 
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J.S.Bach's Brandemburg Concerto #5, allegro #2 with a killer harpsicord solo
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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I Hear a New World                                     ?/? ’60                                 Joe Meek
 
 
I Hear A New World was recorded in 1959.
 
Pinch  Christ, this is unbelievable. "Lightyears" ahead of its time !


Yeah, it really is. Do you think that Joe Meek would stand a chance as a proto-prog addition for this album?

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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

 
The Tornados would be a nice addition to that pre '66 playlist...Meek produced their music & incorperated a lot of his space effects into their sound...here is a link to their songs Telstar & Robot, both from '63:
 
 
 
Followed the links and they indeed fit the playlist.
 
Found this interesting info on Wikipedia, about their guitarist:

Rhythm guitarist George Bellamy is the father of Matthew Bellamy, frontman for British rock band Muse. The introduction in "Knights Of Cydonia" by Muse is very similar to that of "Telstar".

 
...well that explains a lot!
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Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

 
The Tornados would be a nice addition to that pre '66 playlist...Meek produced their music & incorperated a lot of his space effects into their sound...here is a link to their songs Telstar & Robot, both from '63:
 
 
 
Followed the links and they indeed fit the playlist.
 
Found this interesting info on Wikipedia, about their guitarist:

Rhythm guitarist George Bellamy is the father of Matthew Bellamy, frontman for British rock band Muse. The introduction in "Knights Of Cydonia" by Muse is very similar to that of "Telstar".
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Points: 1085 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2009 at 14:51
 - also, check out Attilio Mineo's Man In Space With Sounds (1962)
 
 
...as well as Louis & Bebe Barron's soundtrack to the 1956 film Forbidden Planet & Les Baxter's Music Out Of The Moon (1947).
 
I suppose all of this might work better for a pre '66 space playlist than a pre '66 prog playlist Cry


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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I Hear a New World                                     ?/? ’60                                 Joe Meek
 
 
I Hear A New World was recorded in 1959.
 
Pinch  Christ, this is unbelievable. "Lightyears" ahead of its time !
 
Tell me about it...tragic that he killed himself a few years after the recording Cry 
 
...Joe Meek is like the long lost prophet of psychedelic/space rock Smile
 
The Tornados would be a nice addition to that pre '66 playlist...Meek produced their music & incorperated a lot of his space effects into their sound...here is a link to their songs Telstar & Robot, both from '63:
 
 


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Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I Hear a New World                                     ?/? ’60                                 Joe Meek
 
 
I Hear A New World was recorded in 1959.
 
Pinch  Christ, this is unbelievable. "Lightyears" ahead of its time !


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Originally posted by zicIy zicIy wrote:

"Milestones", "Kind of Blue" ... Miles' albums pre'66...who made the better proto-prog than him at that ancient times ? Nobody. Big smile
 
Any particular tracks off these albums?
 
May I suggest All Blues and/or So What off Kind Of Blue?
 
Do not know Milestones, so need your help on this one.


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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I Hear a New World                                     ?/? ’60                                 Joe Meek
 
 
I Hear A New World was recorded in 1959.
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Points: 2167 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2009 at 15:06
Originally posted by Rank1 Rank1 wrote:

I would say a no to "Zoot Suit" and "Im the Face". 
 
I strongly tend to agree with you as I have already indicated above.
 
I'm also not sure about Go Now.
 
Although by bands (previously) listed as proto-prog, I don't find the songs themselves to be proto-prog.


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Out of the ones not on your original list I would add. 
 
"We Can Work It Out".  Though not a psychedelic rock songs the harmonium swell pedal effects on "We Can Work it Out"  is just a prelude to what your hear later in 1966-1967.  Also the change of time signatures on the bridge a sure sign of proto-prog elements. The sound of the song is very unique at the time in rock music.
 
I would add the "Ox" by the Who it has very pre-sounding Hendrix guitar feedback on the track.  I would say a no to "Zoot Suit" and "Im the Face".  I would add "Heart Full of Soul", "See My Friends", and "You've Got Hide Your Love Away". That's IMO. Tongue
 
  
 
 
 


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