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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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Iván, bringing up such Atheist organisation is rather silly. They're the sort of Atheists I do no like and do not associate with.
This is why I do not call myself an Atheist because Atheists such as those in those Organisations give us a bad name. If I had not heard of Jesus, the Bible and God, I wouldn't even have a moments thought of religion or deities. The only reason I think of God not-existing is because people claim there is one who does exist. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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hmm - not all, some perhaps - probably just a few.
Everyone has beliefs - however, they do not necessarily form a belief system.
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Ricochet ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I don't know Iván, you seem to have a lot of readily available links to atheist resources, are you sure you aren't a closet atheist?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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There are people wanting to join factions everywhere.. So there ARE atheist organizations....
Unlike Christianism or any other religion, though, most atheists don't belong to any group and most are 100% independent. I have never even known of the existence of those bullsh*t atheist organizations.
Christians are told what to believe and follow by churches and priests and books... these atheists you show us seem to be that way, too. Most of us, though, need none to tell us anything. We have our ideas (o lack thereof) from our pure intellectual analysis...
No "commandments" for us... really... if we have to obey a set of rules, we most likely will follow the rule of law.... of secular law... no ridiculous set of rules that state the obvious... (including this ludicrous "atheist ten commandments")
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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^ Technically we are homo sapiens sapiens - the extra two sapiens are superfluous
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Ricochet ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
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![]() We're all homo sapiens sapiens sapiens sapiens, aren't we? ![]() |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Yes jean, it's funny to read how this people who are sworn enemies odf religion say they work toward fostering cooperative diversity This one is better, ths Atheist Organization say they don't believe in Commandmente and call them suggestions (in small font
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Who will dare to say they donm't have beliefs, hey they have formal Commandments.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - March 17 2009 at 13:08 |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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I especially love nr. 7 of "Who We Are"; it is so self-contradictory |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Hey, who are you calling a homo? Sorry that was bad, couldn't resist. ![]() |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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Sean, I have already stated that I am not a Christian. I advise you to read what I stated about my beliefs earlier in this post. the existence of a God the way I described "him" (I don't like the pronoun) is a logical necessity for me until someone comes up with an explanation where our consciousness comes from. I stated my opinion about that; once you believe in that you just have to think it through logically to inadvertently arrive at the conclusion that there is something we should call "God". the explanation of God given by me is the central dogma of the religion Friede and I are High Priestesses of, by the way. you have negative feelings towards a certain organized religion because of the way you were brought up. I have perfect understanding for that. but calling people "brainwashed" because they believe in God goes way too far Edited by BaldJean - March 17 2009 at 14:48 |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17539 |
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Ricochet ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
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Ah, yes, words were apparently distorted this whole thread. I incidentally think that non-belief could be a form of religion, dogma or even belief, mostly thinking about how Mircea Eliade settled this: there is the homo religiosus, who has his own spiritual universe, who supports the sacred and the transcendental, and the homo areligiosus, who denies and refusing the sacred, and thinks the world will be purified when the transcendental will be demoted as an illusion. BUT, here says Eliade, homo areligiosus's conduct derives from an initial homo religiosus condition, and can be itself considered a form of belief. Ultimately what I currently believe in is exactly this: something sacred, something transcendent, and even a certain Creator. A nothingness' "afterlife", for me, is pure nonsense. And with parents teaching, it's religion that it taught (due to its particularities, its principles, its ways etc.), but belief ultimately can't be taught. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - March 17 2009 at 12:16 |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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it is not as simple as that, else anthropologists would not be discussing whether religious feelings are an inherited trait or have to be learned |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17539 |
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It's very true Rico, you're just distorting it. A person who is born has no religious belief inherant. It is taught. I understand you consider non-belief a religion.
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Ricochet ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
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Really quite false. Just as you aren't born being a religious person, you aren't born being a firm non-religious person, either. Since being an atheist means not believing that a God exists, infants up to a certain age don't even bear the knowledge of a God, let alone form a proper atheistic conception. And I'm surprised that parents guiding you, religiously speaking, is a problem, since parents normally guide children in everything, up to a certain point, when the child finally forms takes an independent own moral, logical and even religious path, resembling or not what parents and other people have offered. Edited by Ricochet - March 17 2009 at 12:05 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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The incredible thing is tghat if somebody says for example "Brain Salad Surgery is Bull Sh!t (I don't think that, I rted it with 5 stars)", all the fans make a scandal, even the administrators call you to respect the tastes of the rest of the people.
But if somebody attacks your deepest and more transcendental beliefe, nothing happens, buy the contrary, you are called almost afanatic.
Have you read the guideliines?
Isn't calling your religious beliefs BULL SH!T a deliberate denigration?
The rules iof the site are there, buit nobody except Jean who don't share my faith support this.
Iván
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17539 |
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Really quite true. The fact is that most people (not all of course), but MOST people simply are whatever faith Mommy and Daddy were. It becomes ingrained in their childhood and they accept it is fact.
Whether it's true or not, most folks don't bother to attempt to determine it on their own, they simply choose to believe what another person has told them. Which makes it all the more scary when someone says they have 100% belief, no doubt, no honest skepticism whatsover. Just tell me what to believe Dad, and I'm there for life.
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