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limeyrob 
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VIP Member Joined: January 15 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1402 |
 Posted: May 18 2009 at 04:36 |
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If you don't like it become an MP and change it. Surely the chances of getting into Parliament as an independent is better now than it has ever been.
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el dingo
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Joined: October 08 2008 Location: Norwich UK Status: Offline Points: 7053 |
Posted: May 16 2009 at 09:07 |
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Tell me about it!
Try getting a half decent job in the UK when you're 51. It's minimum wage plus working tax credit - if you can find 30+ hours a week of course, or the Nat King Cole (dole). Sixty quid a week when you've worked all your life and paid God knows what in NI. Rant Rant Rant
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Chris S
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
Posted: May 15 2009 at 15:03 |
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............time to introduce firing squads ( Live on TV) for all offenders. The idea that politicians believe they can be elected without being caught out for anything dumfounds me. Shoot the
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Save the taxpayer money on enquiries and increase " Reality TV' ratings....
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...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 15 2009 at 14:57 |
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True - there appears to be a perception that there is a difference between benefit fraud and creative accounting when they are the actually same thing - taking money that isn't yours. Edited by Dean - May 15 2009 at 14:58 |
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lazland
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Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13850 |
Posted: May 15 2009 at 14:38 |
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The government do a reasonably good job of that - they are a realatively easy target. It's the rich who don't pay their full dues that we are crap at getting hold of  |
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
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limeyrob
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member Joined: January 15 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1402 |
Posted: May 15 2009 at 14:30 |
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At the same time as recovering money from the excesses of expenses for MPs all money should be recovered from benefit fraudsters. |
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Jim Garten
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Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: May 15 2009 at 03:09 |
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+++coughfraud-squadcough+++
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Jim Garten
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Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: May 15 2009 at 03:08 |
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Differentiation is irrelevant when they have the (often used) excuse of "honest mistake" (ie "whoops, they found me out").
Have I used the expression "Thieving  s" yet?
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Padraic
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 12:07 |
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£22K incidental expense allowance
£24K additional costs allowance I'd love to see a government official asked to differentiate the two... |
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 12:02 |
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UK MPs get £64K a year ($98K) this is before you work out their various allowances, including £100K/year for "staff" (which generally means Mrs MP doing a bit of filing and MP jnr licking stamps), another £3K if they have to work in London (hmm, where are the Houses of Parliament again?) £22K incidental expense allowance, £5K IT equipment allowance, £24K additional costs allowance, £40K winding-up allowance (whatever the flump that is), £10.4K communications allowance and 40p/mile mileage allowance (lets assume 10,000 miles per annum or £4K) ... making a grand total of £272,400 (...about $400K - which I understand is roughly what the US gov pays Mr Obama)
... it must be bloody tough for them.
the average UK salary is £27K ($41K) ... of course that "average" is grossly skewed with the majority earning less than that.
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Padraic
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 11:36 |
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Mr Chawner said: "What we get barely covers the bills and puts food on
the table. It's not our fault we can't work. We deserve more."
I'm almost beyond a rant; just speechless really at this attitude. If I were a British citizen I'd be foaming at the mouth. |
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 10:04 |
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^ probably busy claiming for a second phone cleaning cloth storage facility.
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Jim Garten
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Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 09:51 |
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Bloody telephone sanitisers
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 09:32 |
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^ that's how we got in this mess in the first place
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Padraic
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 09:17 |
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If there's any Douglas Adams fans here, I propose you round up your lot and we ours, and put them on the "B" Ark.
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 09:09 |
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^ what, by voting Labour?
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Man Erg
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 26 2004 Location: Isle of Lucy Status: Offline Points: 7456 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 08:23 |
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Everyone spoil their voting paper at the MEP elections, June 4th.
That'll tell 'em!
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
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Jim Garten
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Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 08:17 |
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Accidentally claiming mortage payments of £800 per month after the mortgage was repaid....?
....for 18 ing months?
That is theft - plain and simple. |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 07:10 |
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When I was a Civil Servant expenses claims were so heavily scrutinised you could get raked over the coals for being a few miles out in calculating mileage allowance. At one point it became so arduous making a claim that many of us couldn't be bothered with the hassle over a couple of measly pounds. These b
ds aren't fiddling a few quid here and there - they are augmenting their salaries to the tune of several thousand pounds a year - that's not "a simple mistake"; it's not even just "dishonest" but is criminal theft on a grand scale. It's about time we clamped down on "white collar" crime properly. I'd say bring back Penal Transportation, but the sneaky gits would claim travel expenses and hard lying allowance for that too.
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Jim Garten
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Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:19 |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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