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Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 21:09
Indeed.

Also let's not forget this is the third huge name in a very short span.
Ed McMahon, Farrah, and now Michael.

....And thank you Henry....I guess that shed's some light on it


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I mean the guy was only 50, not overweight, not into drugs, (that we know of at least).
Not according to Wikipedia.
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Points: 65779 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 21:01
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Despite being one of the best selling artists of all time, he had almost no money left.



it's hard to fathom, you'd think with the best selling album ever - millions more copies sold than anything by any other artist - that he'd always have plenty of regular money coming in, strange
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Heard about this news earlier....

Complete surprise.
I mean the guy was only 50, not overweight, not into drugs, (that we know of at least).

Regardless off his...oddities and various personal questions I feel for the guy.
He had no childhood, I mean it's no surprise he was so weird.
Despite being one of the best selling artists of all time, he had almost no money left.

Just sad. Very sad...
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Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being.
Do you have children?
Although I think people get hysterical about pedophiles because they don't understand how they operate (I read recently that a school in England banned anyone from photographing soccer games but I can't find a link), the point is not the natural reactions one has towards pedophiles. The point is that he was acquitted, yet despite the law deciding that he was innocent (twice!), since it his opinion that he did it, he feels free to disregard the evidence and declare him a worthless parisite. This isn't OJ, folks.
 
But even if he were guilty, being a pedophile does not invalidate him as a human being and I take offense at the notion that it does. They are criminals, yes, but their crime is no different from any other. In fact, we should pity them more, as the vast majority of the time they were the victims of abuse themselves.
Argh! 
Slight correction: he settled out of court in 1993 (twice!).  And why isn't this OJ? He was found innocent in the same court system by a similar group of "twelve really stupid people who are easily swayed by rich, fat-cat, slimy lawyers, who'll do anything but tell the truth" (its from Wrongfully Accused).  OJ was great in the Naked Gun series by the way so I fully expect when he dies he'll get a thread mourning his loss.  And King By-Tor: I feel fine today knowing that if I died tomorrow that you'd repect my passing not that I'd care, I'd be dead after all and either in a far better place, far worse place, or just gone.
 
will step aside now with respect for Tony's wishes of keeping in civil (I submitted the above post before reading his post)
Argh!

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It's weird coz last night before I went to bed, I randomly listened to Man in The Mirror and Human Nature, not knowing he'd already passed away. May he rest in peace.

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Points: 2546 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 20:09
Very Sad News indeedCry 
He may not be prog but none of us can deny that he had a huge influence on popular music. It is this that we should be remembering him for at this time... and let's not forget no one is perfect!

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Points: 7910 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 20:06
You know, I looked at how many hits this thread has received in a short span of time and thought, "You know what? I bet it's turned into a huge cluster #$&! because of a few comments."

I'm not a fan, nor do I agree with how he conducted his life; however, there has been plenty of time to throw negatives about the man around, but on a thread in honor of a man on the day of his death? And I say this out of respect to the author of the thread than Michael Jackson.

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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being.
Do you have children?
Although I think people get hysterical about pedophiles because they don't understand how they operate (I read recently that a school in England banned anyone from photographing soccer games but I can't find a link), the point is not the natural reactions one has towards pedophiles. The point is that he was acquitted, yet despite the law deciding that he was innocent (twice!), since it his opinion that he did it, he feels free to disregard the evidence and declare him a worthless parisite. This isn't OJ, folks.
 
But even if he were guilty, being a pedophile does not invalidate him as a human being and I take offense at the notion that it does. They are criminals, yes, but their crime is no different from any other. In fact, we should pity them more, as the vast majority of the time they were the victims of abuse themselves.
 
Slight correction: he settled out of court in 1993 (twice!).  And why isn't this OJ? He was found innocent in the same court system by a similar group of "twelve really stupid people who are easily swayed by rich, fat-cat, slimy lawyers, who'll do anything but tell the truth" (its from Wrongfully Accused).  OJ was great in the Naked Gun series by the way so I fully expect when he dies he'll get a thread mourning his loss.  And King By-Tor: I feel fine today knowing that if I died tomorrow that you'd repect my passing not that I'd care, I'd be dead after all and either in a far better place, far worse place, or just gone.
 
will step aside now with respect for Tony's wishes of keeping in civil (I submitted the above post before reading his post)


Edited by manofmystery - June 25 2009 at 19:51


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It's sad when any person dies, but not particularly affected for Michael Jackson (I always try to be honest). 

What bothers me is that some stations like CNN in Spanish are showing a portrait of almost a hero, something far from reality.
 
Hope that he finds peace wherever he is now.
 
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Rest in peace, King of Pop. And thanks for some wonderful music.
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Points: 24439 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:18
Henry, my hat off to youThumbs Up! 
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Let's keep this civil.

As Larry King wisely predicted just now, this time next week we will have had our fill of salacious tabloid Michael Jackson stories.

For now can we just behave with a little dignity.
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Points: 16111 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:10
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being.
Do you have children?
No, but I don't believe that disqualifies me to distain child molesters.  Didn't think mine would be a popular opinion but then I don't have the attachment to MJs music that allows me to view his life through rose colored glasses.
He was talking to me, lol.
 
I don't even like his music. But if you have no empathy for a person whose life was so screwed up by things beyond his control, then I feel sorry for you.


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Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being.
Do you have children?
No, but I don't believe that disqualifies me to distain child molesters.  Didn't think mine would be a popular opinion but then I don't have the attachment to MJs music that allows me to view his life through rose colored glasses.
He was talking to me, lol.
 
I don't even like his music. But if you have no empathy for a person whose life was so screwed up by things beyond his control, then I feel sorry for you.
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 19:05
Well, rest in peace. I loved some of him classics in my MTV early childhood, but afterwards I lost all contact with his music.
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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being.
Do you have children?
Although I think people get hysterical about pedophiles because they don't understand how they operate (I read recently that a school in England banned anyone from photographing soccer games but I can't find a link), the point is not the natural reactions one has towards pedophiles. The point is that he was acquitted, yet despite the law deciding that he was innocent (twice!), since it his opinion that he did it, he feels free to disregard the evidence and declare him a worthless parisite. This isn't OJ, folks.
 
But even if he were guilty, being a pedophile does not invalidate him as a human being and I take offense at the notion that it does. They are criminals, yes, but their crime is no different from any other. In fact, we should pity them more, as the vast majority of the time they were the victims of abuse themselves.
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I'm with you Raff, and I feel that my key strokes hold little value, but if the forum is as open as the people who get away with spewing vomit like this then I'm entitled to my opinion.

Dead or not, child molestor or not, we're talking about a breathing, living, conscious entity who had feelings and a life, people who loved and trusted him, individual thoughts and processes.

I f**king hate people who believe in a firm belief of good and evil, there's no such f**king thing! There's a society of morals that mean nothing in the overall scheme and if you can't show respect for the passing of a fellow human, be they abide by your morals or not then you're not worth as much to the world as you believe that person was. Yes, I'm putting you in the position of an ALLEGED child molestor. How does that feel?

do us all a favor and SHUT THE f**k UP!
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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Have trouble mourning the fact that there's one less child molester in the world now
It's nice that the court of your f**king opinion has the power to make someone have no value as a human being.
 
Do you have children?
 
No, but I don't believe that disqualifies me to distain child molesters.  Didn't think mine would be a popular opinion but then I don't have the attachment to MJs music that allows me to view his life through rose colored glasses.


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Don't waste your breath, Mike, or you might be told that the forum is open to allUnhappy...
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