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A Person ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
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Today I listened to my first full Krautrock album ( before I had only listened to samples) Can's Tago Mago. I am seriously thinking about re-listening to it right now, I loved it. The only thing that I was slightly annoyed by was that the vocals are a bit jarring at first hearing them, they remind me of what little I have heard from Einstürzende Neubauten.
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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If you like the Tago Mago you should also check out Dragontears. They are Danish not German but they are very obviously inspired by the Damo Suzuki era of Can, having the same psychedelic droning quality to them though they're much more "space rock"-oriented in atmosphere and imagery.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Rocktopus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202 |
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Although they're not really rock, right now (because I'm going through their 70's discography, normally I would say Can) I'm thinking that Tangerine Dream made the best Kraut there is during their OHR years.
Zeit has a 3.42 rating here and Alpha Centauri 3.43, because some raters and reviewer give a one star to any music they don't understand. That way progressive masterpieces end up as good, but not essential, while some irrelevant Rush album from 2002 is suddenly an Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection. |
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Also the first Ash Ra Tempel album
Amboss a fiery music sound of expresion!
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Captain Capricorn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 21 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1085 |
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My favorites are from Scriabin are The Poem of Ecstasy & Mysterium ![]() |
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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I don't think that many here pay more attention to average ratings than the particular reviewers they trust the most, though. |
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18565 |
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Please ignore those ratings ... those two albums of Tangerine Dream's have absolutely nothing to do with rock music ... at all! Or Progressive music whatsoever!
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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One should hope people do that.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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A Person ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
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I am listening to Neu! on Last.fm, and so far it has been great. I find it weird that this thread and in others bands like Can, Caravan, and Gong have been talked about/ mentioned more than usual as I have been exploring Canterbury Scene and Krautrock.
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listen ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Portland OR Status: Offline Points: 352 |
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My Top 5 Krautrock albums (of 300+ I've listened to): Brainticket - Psychonaut Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra Dom - Edge of Time Prosper - Broken Door then maybe: Brainticket - Celestial Ocean Ash Ra Tempel - Join Inn Can - Future Days Agitation Free - Second Popol Vuh - Einsjager & Siebenjager So many other great albums I could have listed, too, and many of my favorite songs are on other krautrock albums ![]() Edited by listen - July 13 2009 at 03:19 |
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Now is all there is. Be before you think!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18565 |
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Based on the time frame and school of music I would listen to Nektar ... their early stuff is very good, and although "Sounds Like This" is not usually a selection that is mentioned as "prog" but it does show very clearly how popular music injected/impressed Nektar and how they ended up creating their own ... and I happen to like their long cuts in there as well.
Can ... better heard in sequence as it shows the band and its progress and changes ... start with Tago Mago, then Ege Bamyasi, then Future Days and then Soon Over Babbalooma ... as much as I love those 4 albums, the next one is even more important ... as it shows how the band really went far out and experimental back to the early days with really far out and way off left field stuff that has more in common with Tago Mago (not the music/ears - but the experimentation) than otherwise ... but it is an album that few people can relate to ... it is weird, and funny and off the wall ... and so progressive that folks here can't handle it! It's kinda like heaing Gentle Giant the first time ... you go ... what is this?
Brainticket ... Cottonwood Hill was their first and it still is the weirdest and most fun to listen to ... I loved Celestial Ocean and still have the poster on my wall!
Ashra Tempel ... Join Inn is a really fine listen if you have the patience and care to close your eyes and just enjoy something in the dark. Janseits is really nice. Join Inn is better and the girl's seductive voice, considering I do not knwo what she is saying ... is a really soothing and relaxing meditation ... if you are expecting some prog bullpucky rock ... do not get this one ... this is two long cuts and a tripper's delight ... and most prog'rs (specially in this board) are not trippers at all!!!!!!!!
Popol Vuh is what New Age should have been but were afraid to be as far as I am concerned. Way more spiritual than the crystal bs that ended up in America as a commercial venture. Appreciate it for its beauty and definitly catch the Werner Herzog films with this music .... specially Aguirre and Heart of Glass and Nosferatu. Herzog does know how to use the music and some of the subtle accoustic stuff on the album is in Aguirre and really effective and makes it seem scary and different ... really well done -- and the music is ... better! But the film is really good.
The others I do not feel qualified in discussing as I have not given them a fair listen. Except Agitation Free, but I prefer not to discuss that one at all ... at this time -- until I double check some more information on it. To me this is not Krautrock ... this is a serious attempt at mixing rock with eastern music via electronic instruments ... and as such fits better in the experimental areas than it does "krautrock" ... this is not a "rock band' per se ... as they were testing out other musical factors as well. No one can miss the eastern influences and obvious examples and how it was used in these albums -- with electronic instruments mixing in with traditional instruments. Much of the expanding of a note or wave with the synthesizer has a lot more to do with eastern concepts of meditation and "raga" than it does any western musical concept at all, and this we're not all willing to discuss or compare notes on. It is a very difficult topic to discuss. Agitation Free was not the only band that did this and they had an off shoot if I remember correctly ... Dissidenten. Which continued the eastern influence and style and also had electronics.
I would still get Guru Guru's first 4 albums (listen to them in that order) all the way to Tango Fango and even Dance of the Flames ... and it is really important that you realize how political "Das Liebe von Radio" (spelling) is specially in that time when Berlin was still split and East Germany was forbidden a lot of the western music ... I really think that these first 4 albums by GuruGuru are massive and a must in anybody's "kruatrock" collection ... in my mind they are much more kruatrock than we give them credit for ... I tend to not consider Popol Vuh, Ash Ra Tempel krautrock at all ... and Brainticket is of Swiss origin I think, and it fits more into the experimental area than it does in krautrock ... at least it's a much better description of their work.
I do hope that you have Amonduuled yourself ... krautrock is not complete if you do not have Yeti, Dance of the Lemmings, Carnival in Babylon and Wolf City ... and if you can handle it Vive La Trance ... as the song "Apocalyptic Bore" is the end of the "definition" of krautrock ... it says it all ... (and after you play this song you gotta get yourself a copy of the title song of Scorpions "Fly To The Rainbow" album ... they wrote the song pro=fun and drugs, right after AD2 had said goodbye to all that stuff...)
When you hear and realize that Ege Bamyasi, Wold City, A Tab in the Ocean, Atem pretty much came out at the same time ... (2 of these the same week!) ... you can imagine how some of us felt then ... we died and went to heaven!
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Rocktopus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202 |
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Alpha Centauri hasn't got anything to do with rock or progressive music? I disagree (and I think Zeit is progressive music). I don't care that much about the ratings, but I think its a flaw of the site that a "specialist" of any genres opinion (=rating) is weighted many times higher, also in the genres they're clueless about. |
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14453 |
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I'm a huge Krautrock fan but one band that i can't get into is Faust.I know they're often one of the first bands brought up in such a discussion and highly rated but they're beyond me.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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Ricochet ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
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Their debut is still one of the weirdest stuff I've ever heard. ![]() ...and I love it! |
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Syzygy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7088 |
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Tuzvihar ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 18 2005 Location: C. Schinesghe Status: Offline Points: 13536 |
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Here's my latest addition to the database:
I stumbled upon this album some time ago and it's great. Really, recommended! ![]() |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski |
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Bj-1 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Offline Points: 31663 |
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Their debut is somewhat disturbing. I love it too!
![]() They are definitely more in RIO terretory than other Kraut groups though. They even toured with Henry Cow back in the day although some years before the RIO name was coined.
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Tsevir Leirbag ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 03 2009 Location: Montréal Status: Offline Points: 8321 |
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Well, definitely, this a VERY good genre! My favourite bands un this subgenre are Faust (particularly Faust IV), Brainticket (Psychonaut) and Amon Duul II (Phallus Dei & Yeti) |
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
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Rocktopus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202 |
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Awsome! Now its rated too. |
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Over land and under ashes
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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Pretty cool cover art, like Art Deco futurism a la Metropolis on a serious acid trip. ![]() |
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