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Abstrakt
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Posted: August 17 2009 at 04:27 |
Abstrakt wrote:
While Beatles may have been more important for the music scene, Led Zeppelin is much better.
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Now that i'm more into Beatles, i can't say that Led Zep is MUCH better than them, but i still prefer Led Zeppelin!
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: August 16 2009 at 22:21 |
There are no similarities between these bands; so they can't be compared; so I can't vote...
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Kashmir75
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Posted: August 08 2009 at 23:59 |
The Beatles may have been better lyricists and songwriters, but I think Zep were technically better at their instruments. It would take a brave man to say Ringo is better than Bonzo, for example.
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henge
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 20:51 |
Beatles.
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 16:00 |
From a musicians perspective, Zeppelin are much better
The beatles werent even good at their instruments 
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Canprog
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Posted: August 04 2009 at 21:02 |
Hmm let me think about this one...The beatles!!!!!
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Tengent
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Posted: August 03 2009 at 10:42 |
Zeppelin, personally. They never went under any line-up changes, and I am in love with every song but a few. I only like The Beatles after Rubber Soul.
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alanerc
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Posted: August 03 2009 at 00:16 |
Lancé una moneda al aire, para decidir, pero esta jamás cayó  Can't decide
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Gustavo Froes
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Posted: July 30 2009 at 13:50 |
^by the way,in a Stones vs. Beatles poll,I guess I'd just have to vote for the Stones...just a matter of personal taste,but I do love their 60's stuff,really  .
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Gustavo Froes
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Posted: July 30 2009 at 13:47 |
I don't think people appreciate just how influential was Zeppelin,even compared to the Beatles.As far as musicianship goes,there's no pint in arguing who's best,since both have proven several times to be made of genious musicians(alright maybe not Ringo).The Beatles reinvented rock n'roll,but Led Zep basically set the standard for early 70's music with their first albums,and where the grandfathers of heavy metal.
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paragraph7
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Posted: July 30 2009 at 08:00 |
I love the old Beatles stuff very much, but i have hard time comparing any of Beatles performances or recordings to, lets say "Baby im gonna leave you" 1969 or "Since ive been loving you"(not even mentioning the fourth album" of Led Zeppelin. It may be an "acquired taste" but i personally have never heard anyone sing like Robert Plant in those early years. So Zeppelin for me.
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 23:31 |
Gianthogweed wrote:
The Beatles were an unstoppable force for the 7 years they recorded their 16 albums worth of music. They broke up at the top of their game. And had it not been for the squabbles that eventually led to their break up they would have still been making great music well into the 80s.
Led Zeppelin started out very strong making great blues inspired heavy rock albums but very quickly ran out of steam in the mid seventies. They couldn't survive the death of their drummer and broke up after 10 albums worth of music in 12 years.
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Bullsh*t. I'll take your points one at a time ; - The Beatles "16 albums worth of music" contained a fair percentage of, let's face it, mediocre songs, both original and covered. I don't begrudge them this, they loved to play and were probably the most prolific rock ensemble ever, but quantity is not quality. - They broke up for numerous reasons, and may very well have split eventually due to the fact they just didn't want to be the Beatles anymore. Besides you can hear what they would've been doing by listening to the best of the solo work. Would they have still been the cutting-edge band of the world? Maybe but I doubt it. It was Prog and Hard-rock's turn, and soon Punk's, and all three trumped the Beatles for newness, innovation and risk-taking. Not to say the boys wouldn't have put out some great records - I'm sure they would have - but artists as Zeppelin, Genesis, Bowie, Zappa, Sabbath, Tull, the Stooges, these were the new leaders of what rock was capable of. The Beatles had mostly run their course as trailblazers. - Your opinion of Zeppelin's mid-70s output is fair and probably shared by some fans (though I hesitate to call anyone who doesn't like their mid-70s stuff a fan) but you don't specify what, i.e. 1975's Physical Graffiti is mostly a hard blues album, was one of their most successful records, and is arguably their finest studio release. That they broke up after Bonham's death just shows their integrity and understanding that without him they would not be the same band. This is a testament to the band's honesty, intelligence and sensitivity. Further, this deep bond and friendship was real and endured, unlike the bitterness sometimes shown between former Beatles.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 23:09 |
Zep for me. I'm not a giant fan of either band, though I do like each band. I prefer the slightly heavier sound of Zep though, especially songs like Achilles Last Stand.
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SergiUriah
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 23:03 |
Abstrakt wrote:
While Beatles may have been more important for the music scene, Led Zeppelin is much better...
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...for you and for Page, of course.
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camilleanne
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 20:57 |
Beatles...
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Zargus
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Posted: July 26 2009 at 07:29 |
Led Zeppelin > The Beatles, but i love both.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: July 26 2009 at 04:16 |
Avantgardehead wrote:
The Beatles have about 10x as many songs I enjoy compared to Led Zeppelin.
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Make that 1000 times, and we agree
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terransage
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Posted: July 26 2009 at 03:09 |
I voted Beatles, but Led Zeppelin is a close second for me. The Beatles were my first "favorite" band, in the late '60's. It was my dad, a classically trained bebop jazz musician, who brought home Abbey Road from one of his students. He excitedly put it on the record player and had our whole family listen to it. I still have a clear memory of that day. I don't know what it was that drew us in, but there was a "magic" in the music that got us all excited. Before that, my parents hated rock music. After that, my dad started buying more Beatles albums, Santana, Rare Earth, Blood, Sweat and Tears, Bob Dylan. One thing that impressed me was that each song on Abbey Road had a completely different sound and feel to it. It was like an adventure. My mom, who loved classical music, fell in love with "Because," and my dad raved about "I Want You (She's So Heavy)."
I played trombone and guitar (and sang) in all kinds of ensembles, from concert bands, brass choirs and orchestras, to jazz bands and rock bands. Whether the Beatles were necessary for the development of prog or not (I think it was definitely influential, if not necessary), they fit right in with my own eclectic tastes and eventually led me down a road that included Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Pentangle, Soft Machine, Jethro Tull, Genesis, Brand X, Hawkwind, etc.. I never thought of prog as a reaction to the "simple-minded pop" of the Beatles. I'd never heard that before, in any prog histories or interviews. In fact, I'd always heard the opposite, that Yes, Robert Fripp, Phil Collins and other prog folk were influenced by the Beatles.
Lol, I don't know what my point is here; I just started rambling. I think it was all the talk about the Beatles' place in prog history that got me going. Anyway, I just joined the forum today. This is my second post....
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Kazzbaah
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 16:59 |
Oh, definitely voted for Led Zeppelin. In terms of relative "importance to music" I don't believe in putting the two bands on the same scale. Certainly while the Beatles were/are extremely popular and well-known throughout the world probably more than LZ, they each accomplished a lot in their respective music scenes. The Beatles probably accomplished more for progressive music with their psychedelic/proto-prog music, but LZ was definitely more than instrumentally better than the Beatles, with each member exhibiting great skill with their respective instrument, including vocals.
But eh, the poll isn't really about which one was a greater influence, it's about which one you prefer over the other, and to me that's LZ, simply because the Beatles to me are very played out and just so over-done, it kinda makes me sick of 'em. George and John were cool though.
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Gianthogweed
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:55 |
The Beatles were an unstoppable force for the 7 years they recorded their 16 albums worth of music. They broke up at the top of their game. And had it not been for the squabbles that eventually led to their break up they would have still been making great music well into the 80s.
Led Zeppelin started out very strong making great blues inspired heavy rock albums but very quickly ran out of steam in the mid seventies. They couldn't survive the death of their drummer and broke up after 10 albums worth of music in 12 years.
The Beatles wins this so handily.
Edited by Gianthogweed - June 29 2009 at 03:55
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