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SgtPepper67
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 09:30 |
halabalushindigus wrote:
yeah, but I still dig the early stuff like Paul's rippin' bass on "Little Child" |
I totally dig the early stuff, of course it doesn't compare to what came later but I even think it's a bit underrated. A Hard Day's Night and Help surely deserves a listen if you already got into the post Rubber Soul albums, they already started devolping their songwriting on those albums.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: January 31 2010 at 07:27 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
J-Man wrote:
Glad to see another person converted to The Beatles! I never thought I'd hear that from you! 
Out of curiosity, what's your opinion of Abbey Road? I think that's their best album by a large margin...
-Jeff
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Abbey Road is my 2nd favorite; it's pretty good. I'd say from Sgt. Pepper's to Abbey Road everything is pretty good. Before Sgt. Pepper's, Revolver and Rubber Soul are alright; still don't care for much before that, and not really impressed or familiar with Let It Be.
However... the White Album TOTALLY blew me away beyond belief and I believe that it is by far their best work---despite how accomplished Sgt. Pepper's, Abbey Road, and Magical Mystery Tour are. That's just my take on it. |
^ All these albums are great. And for me it's The White One that floats my boat. But take these 'large margins' and 'by fars' with a pinch of salt - neither is true. Listen and enjoy! 
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 23:27 |
J-Man wrote:
Glad to see another person converted to The Beatles! I never thought I'd hear that from you! 
Out of curiosity, what's your opinion of Abbey Road? I think that's their best album by a large margin...
-Jeff
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Abbey Road is my 2nd favorite; it's pretty good. I'd say from Sgt. Pepper's to Abbey Road everything is pretty good. Before Sgt. Pepper's, Revolver and Rubber Soul are alright; still don't care for much before that, and not really impressed or familiar with Let It Be.
However... the White Album TOTALLY blew me away beyond belief and I believe that it is by far their best work---despite how accomplished Sgt. Pepper's, Abbey Road, and Magical Mystery Tour are. That's just my take on it.
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 22:41 |
yeah, but I still dig the early stuff like Paul's rippin' bass on "Little Child"
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jammun
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 21:19 |
You'd better listen to Rain/Paperback Writer Taking nothing away from the early stuff, that's where the band turned the corner.
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Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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J-Man
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 16:16 |
Glad to see another person converted to The Beatles! I never thought I'd hear that from you!  Out of curiosity, what's your opinion of Abbey Road? I think that's their best album by a large margin... -Jeff
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Floydman
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 15:44 |
halabalushindigus wrote:
Having listened to Revolver as a child, I heard the U.S. Version, which omits 3 songs. So it was years later that the transformative effect which I think Dean is talking about became a unique experience for me .when I heard it the very first time. This experience is timeless to me. The song is "I'm Only Sleeping" and as it is ending, it fades out while guitars are playing backwards, then silence, then the brushing of the Tabla ( I'm really not sure if its a Sitar exactly)
I can't explain how this moment tweaks my mind, but it does |
The Beatles incorporated sounds, textures and recording techniques that
were not commonly associated with pop music and rock music. The example are numerous ranging from running a series of loops though a recording console or writing and recording backward parts. Listen to some of “Strawberry Fields Forever” demos, there is a definite
feeling that this was a groundbreaking song. It doesn't fit into any
R'n R / folk /Muscle Shoals(?) template does it? So they had to invent
a whole new musical vocab. to accommodate the song. This
obviously had an influence on the Rolling Stones psychedelic period and
everyone else. The Beatles were known for their melodies and odd chord
progressions they changed how musicians thought of the album just ask
Brian Wilson. Robert Fripp of the pioneering progressive rock band King
Crimson said on Cambridge Guide to the Beatles his goal was to build on what the Beatles did on Sgt
Pepper.
Edited by Floydman - January 30 2010 at 15:45
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 01:37 |
Let me edit my last statement
...the transformative effect that ATAVACHRON was mentioning
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 01:28 |
Having listened to Revolver as a child, I heard the U.S. Version, which omits 3 songs. So it was years later that the transformative effect which I think Dean is talking about became a unique experience for me .when I heard it the very first time. This experience is timeless to me. The song is "I'm Only Sleeping" and as it is ending, it fades out while guitars are playing backwards, then silence, then the brushing of the Tabla ( I'm really not sure if its a Sitar exactly)
I can't explain how this moment tweaks my mind, but it does
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 00:55 |
Rubber Soul may be their most transitional album, but Revolver was transformative both in terms of material and approach to record making; despite the progression in songwriting, Rubber Soul was still a collection of songs, albeit great ones, but was a fairly uneventful Beatles album. Revolver on the other hand was something else-- from 'Eleanor Rigby' and 'Yellow Submarine' to 'Good Day Sunshine', 'For No One' and 'Tomorrow Never Knows', it was evident this was something quite special in rock and not simply another high-quality album by a group of talented young guys.
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Matthew T
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 00:50 |
Doesn't matter were it comes from as long as it keeps comin'  Often I've heard old movies,kids shows anything except MTV  . Anyway The Beatles had a cartoon series in the late 60's ( They had nothing to do with it themselves) but all the songs Revolver back were played on it and I bloody loved it. 
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rogerthat
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Posted: January 30 2010 at 00:02 |
I think it's worth starting from Help! though it is indeed Tomorrow Never Knows that makes you go holy s***, from which planet are these guys from!
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: January 29 2010 at 17:12 |
I've been told when a Boy kiss a Girl, take a trip around the world heyhey
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 29 2010 at 15:29 |
Negoba wrote:
Though Revolver was the first really experimental album, and rightly considered one of the best albums of the rock-n-roll era, Rubber Soul is, for me, the textbook on songwriting. The Beatles do not use straight I-IV-V progressions much of the time. Diminished chords and augmented chords are common as early as their second single "From Me to You." They were never deliberately complex, just trying new things to further the muse.
Early on, there are quite a few covers, and the songwriting is still in development. But as a musician, playing hundreds of shows and knowing hundreds of songs (even simple ones) just changes your ear and competency. The Beatles did a nice variety even way back when.
There is a beauty in near-perfect songwriting in early gems like "Ticket to Ride" and "Help!" Even then things were a little past pure pop.
I'm a Beatles junkie so I could rattle on.... |
I'm honestly not all as familiar with Rubber Soul so I'll have to change that and get back to you on that one. I do see what you mean though; and I think "They were never deliberately complex, just trying new things to further the muse." is a very true statement.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 29 2010 at 15:28 |
rushfan4 wrote:
First the Saints make the Super Bowl; now Alex finds out that he might actually like the Beatles. No wonder it so damn cold north of Kentucky. Hell really has frozen over.  |
James said the same exact thing.
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Negoba
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Posted: January 29 2010 at 10:30 |
Goo-goo-kachoob, man. Groovy.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Epignosis
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Posted: January 29 2010 at 10:21 |
Now you can contemplate the deep mysteries of I AM THE WALRUS.
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Negoba
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Posted: January 29 2010 at 10:03 |
Though Revolver was the first really experimental album, and rightly considered one of the best albums of the rock-n-roll era, Rubber Soul is, for me, the textbook on songwriting. The Beatles do not use straight I-IV-V progressions much of the time. Diminished chords and augmented chords are common as early as their second single "From Me to You." They were never deliberately complex, just trying new things to further the muse.
Early on, there are quite a few covers, and the songwriting is still in development. But as a musician, playing hundreds of shows and knowing hundreds of songs (even simple ones) just changes your ear and competency. The Beatles did a nice variety even way back when.
There is a beauty in near-perfect songwriting in early gems like "Ticket to Ride" and "Help!" Even then things were a little past pure pop.
I'm a Beatles junkie so I could rattle on....
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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rushfan4
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Posted: January 29 2010 at 09:57 |
First the Saints make the Super Bowl; now Alex finds out that he might actually like the Beatles. No wonder it so damn cold north of Kentucky. Hell really has frozen over. 
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 29 2010 at 09:53 |
chopper wrote:
The Beatles music isn't as "simplistic" as some might imagine (and a lot of this comes from the musical knowledge of George Martin) and the change began a bit earlier than Revolver (check out Rubber Soul). Speaking as a massive fan, I can take or leave most of the first two albums, then from A Hard Days Night onwards, the real gems start to appear.
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I guess it was simply a total lack of being able to relate to the music; I felt distanced from the simplicity of it (since I have a natural tendency to go for depth in my art to begin with, regardless of the medium--which is why I like Lost) and I also felt extremely distanced from the whole cultural aspect of it. Listening to any of their songs or albums just never made me feel anything ever. Then I noticed I began appreciating a few of the songs while playing them on the game with my brother because I was paying more close attention to subtle nuances and unique arrangements. Then it all just kind of clicked. I doubt I still ever really enjoy them enough to have them be in my top favorites, but it's hard to say until I sit down and give each album unit a proper listen again.
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