| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
Windhawk 
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: December 28 2006
Location: Norway
Status: Offline
Points: 11401
|
 Posted: March 12 2010 at 05:44 |
|
Oh well. Some people visit this site to learn about, talk about and appreciate music. Others come here and seems to have as a goal to argument for the sake of argumentation.
What artist will have it's progressive credentials doubted next I wonder. Al DiMeola perhaps? John McLaughlin? Marillion? Camel? Gryphon? Jethro Tull?
|
|
Websites I work with:
http://www.progressor.net
http://www.houseofprog.com
My profile on Mixcloud:
https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/
|
 |
ExittheLemming
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
Status: Offline
Points: 11420
|
Posted: March 12 2010 at 05:51 |
^ Indeed, I was going to make a facetious post about Yes being at source nothing more than a skiffle band with better equipment but thought better of it. A member of the 'Black is White' debating team just might take me seriously ? 
|
|
Certif1ed
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 08 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 7559
|
Posted: March 12 2010 at 09:28 |
 ExittheLemming wrote:
^ Indeed, I was going to make a facetious post about Yes being at source nothing more than a skiffle band with better equipment but thought better of it. |
Actually, you've just described The Beatles.
|
|
The important thing is not to stop questioning.
|
|
progressive
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 08 2005
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 366
|
Posted: March 12 2010 at 10:10 |
PF aren't prog.
I'm only answering to this as a poll.
|
► rateyourmusic.com/~Fastro 2672 ratings ▲ last.fm/user/Fastro 5556 artists ▲ www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=4933 266◄
|
|
Padraic
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Status: Offline
Points: 31169
|
Posted: March 12 2010 at 10:11 |
Certif1ed wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ Indeed, I was going to make a facetious post about Yes being at source nothing more than a skiffle band with better equipment but thought better of it. |
Actually, you've just described The Beatles.
|
|
|
shockedjazz
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 12 2008
Location: Madrid (spain)
Status: Offline
Points: 169
|
Posted: March 12 2010 at 11:57 |
Ok The Piper and Sourcefull is psych-rock!!!!!! Is not really space rock could be one of the foundations of it but is not.
Hawkwind is Floyd without talent. Wait a minute? Your refering to the Syd floyds ( then the answer is maybe but definetly not) or Post-Syd ( then the answer is a laugh).
What you are missing is except some ballad (the demented man) and some thing like that you cant possibly bring to mind nothing of Floyds (especialy post Syd) when you hear Hawkwind...they were more in to Neu and the Pink Fairies..not talking about ozrics...you are telling me that you hear ozrics and you say the Floyds? Is that some case of obsesion that makes you see jesus in everyman with beard?  Space rock is spacey and it rocks!!! So simply dont talk about interstellar overdrive these is genius psychic deliruim...but it doesnt rock.
Ozrics do rock, Hawkwind they blew out rock, man!!
Floyds just rock a little in some songs of the first albums.
"Money" is rocking ? yes in the golf club
And Yes answering to another comment do rock and they are genial.
But Floyds doesnt have a wink of their talent.
|
|
Easy Money
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: August 11 2007
Location: Memphis
Status: Offline
Points: 10736
|
Posted: March 12 2010 at 12:28 |
|
Actually Barret era Floyd is by far my favorite too. I like some of the albums leading up to Dark Side, but after Dark Side it's a totally different band to me.
|
|
Certif1ed
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 08 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 7559
|
Posted: March 12 2010 at 14:26 |
shockedjazz wrote:
"Money" is rocking ? yes in the golf club
|
But Money is in 7/4, so it must be Prog, right?
|
|
The important thing is not to stop questioning.
|
|
sealchan
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 12 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 179
|
Posted: March 12 2010 at 17:37 |
|
By my concise definition the album Wish You Were Here is clearly prog as it contains songs with extended instrumental passages that transition through multiple musical ideas. Superficially the long length of some songs indicate and accomodate this musical structure.
|
|
harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: August 18 2008
Location: Anna Calvi
Status: Offline
Points: 22989
|
Posted: March 12 2010 at 17:58 |
Pink Floyd Progressive Rock? ......................................... Nah..... Who would say such a thing? 
|
|
ExittheLemming
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
Status: Offline
Points: 11420
|
Posted: March 13 2010 at 07:08 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
Pink Floyd Progressive Rock?
.........................................
Nah..... Who would say such a thing?
|
Those cats are kinda erm....creepy ?
Edited by ExittheLemming - March 16 2010 at 04:03
|
|
CinemaZebra
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 13 2010
Location: Ancient Rome
Status: Offline
Points: 6795
|
Posted: March 14 2010 at 18:41 |
|
Most of the Waters' era is prog-rock. Before that was space/psychedelia rock, and after was just...cheesy half-hearted experimental rock, I don't know. I agree that Wish You Were Here wasn't really progressive, but then what was it? It fits better into the prog-department than anything else.
|
|
uduwudu
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 17 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 2603
|
Posted: March 16 2010 at 04:00 |
|
Wish You Were Here is not a progressive rock album? Really? Spacey, symphonic, electronic, theatrical (Welcome To The Machine is not too far from the Wall), thoughtful, intelligent music, WYWH a song with greta lyrical import, music that advances from what went on before.
True PF were and still are a huge commercial success thanks to Dark Side. But that is a commercially successful prog rock album. Doesn't stop it from being progressive or prog rock.
My simple qualification for something being progreessive rock? Rock music for the mind, rather than feet.
WYWH has all the elements of classic prog rock. First class on every count.
And PF not prog? Perhaps a little negative but it was noted Phil Collins future pal, the US based property developer Johnny Lydon nee Rotten who wore his notorious "I Hate PF" T -shirt." to his audition where he mimed to a record. Can't get a better qualification than that!
|
|
shockedjazz
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 12 2008
Location: Madrid (spain)
Status: Offline
Points: 169
|
Posted: March 24 2010 at 12:39 |
When i think space rock nothing like PF come to my mind.
When i think space rock i think ozrics, i think hawkwind, even Gong ( they are in canterbury section but that is space rock for me).
Because space rock is not equal to progressive music. Your definition is right for prog rock but space rock definition is "sending a rocket to space"- music for the mind, the body, the subconcious.
And have to be widly tripping-space rock is not for sofa tripping....is really a concert music
|
|
shockedjazz
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 12 2008
Location: Madrid (spain)
Status: Offline
Points: 169
|
Posted: March 24 2010 at 12:50 |
And "money" could be a kind of prog but i was saying that it doesnt rock. Is rock for the golf disgised as some anti-money revindication.
When you want to rock, especifically to space-rock you put "Vita Voom" or "Lord of light" (concert version), that kick you in a spacy manner.
The thing of the Floyds could be easily called space pop (see Bowies "Space oddity") and then maybe when can get an agreement.
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
Pink Floyd Progressive Rock?
