/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
|
|
Post Reply 
|
Page <1 6364656667 92> |
| Author | ||||
The T 
Special Collaborator 
Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
 Posted: July 07 2010 at 10:46 |
|||
|
||||
|
||||
 |
||||
|
Slartibartfast
Collaborator 
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: July 07 2010 at 10:25 |
|||
Well, maybe if you'd just stop biting people in the neck. |
||||
|
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
|
||||
|
||||
|
The T
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: July 07 2010 at 10:02 |
|||
|
If Mike ever turns me into a believer, I'd probably go catholic though. I promise not to embark on acts of dubious nature with the choir boys, though....
(sorry for a little trolling, but they kick me out of the atheist threads now
 ) |
||||
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
Epignosis
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32589 |
Posted: July 07 2010 at 09:03 |
|||
|
Juan (I know you'll read this here)...I do believe the Bible is the infallible Word of God. I never said that I didn't.
What I did say (and have said multiple times) was that most people interpret it most of the Bible poorly because they read it like it was yesterday's newspaper. Some folks around here don't get that, and so still attack interpretations of the Bible that are flawed to begin with. |
||||
|
||||
|
Epignosis
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32589 |
Posted: July 07 2010 at 08:56 |
|||
Actually, what you say is kind of the opposite.  "Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent." -Acts 17:30 Now this doesn't mean God tolerated all sin, but that He overlooked ignorance of the world at large. Now that Christ has come, he commands all people everywhere (meaning not just Hebrews, but Gentiles) to repent and follow Christ. I'll address something that was mentioned in the...what is it now...fifth Atheism thread?  ...someone mentioned that the book of Matthew would require us all to keep that law. That isn't the case at all. The reason is quite simple: I am not an Israelite, so the law isn't for me. The Law in the Old Testament is a part of a covenant God made with Israel. He did not punish other cultures when they did not keep the Sabbath day holy, did they? No...the Hebrew Law was just that- a Hebrew one. I was never meant to keep it in the first place. |
||||
|
||||
|
JJLehto
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: July 06 2010 at 21:33 |
|||
|
I think I'm more fit to be a Jew than a Christian. See the old testament is where its at.
With the vengeance and the spiting, the overall gore and horror! Then God became a softie. Ever since had that kid.... Guess it is true after all. *JJ's blasphemous moment of the day brought to you by....me* |
||||
|
||||
|
Epignosis
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32589 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 17:12 |
|||
You are right, although the verse in Genesis 2 is a variant of Nephesh. But yes, the word for "wind" or "breath" was Ruach. |
||||
|
||||
|
timothy leary
Forum Senior Member 
Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 16:50 |
|||
|
Ruah is actually the hebrew equivalent of breath
Edited by timothy leary - July 05 2010 at 16:58 |
||||
|
||||
|
jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009 Location: Guatemala Status: Offline Points: 6802 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 16:42 |
|||
|
||||
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
Epignosis
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32589 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 16:18 |
|||
You can probably copy and paste it on a Word document or something so you can read it without any eye strain. Yes, when God gave man the breath of life, the verb used in Genesis chapter 2 is a variant of nephesh. |
||||
|
||||
|
jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009 Location: Guatemala Status: Offline Points: 6802 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 16:15 |
|||
Oh, that's interesting... of course, it remains still of interpretation right? but indeed is a different point of view, and seems like a strong one... would need to have a class about it... I think I need one... thanks man, interesting article, just that the white text tend to hurt my eyes but it's interesting... thanks...
It has sense when you think that God gave man "the breath of life" right...?
|
||||
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
Epignosis
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32589 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 15:42 |
|||
Bah...sounds like a lot of hot air to me! |
||||
|
||||
|
Slartibartfast
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 15:34 |
|||
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. I was just thinking as I read the post how interesting it is that when we breathe out in winter outside there's often that ghostly aspect to the air you exhale... Edited by Slartibartfast - July 05 2010 at 15:35 |
||||
|
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
|
||||
|
||||
|
Epignosis
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32589 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 15:18 |
|||
It's a strange coincidence that both the Hebrew and the Greek words translated "spirit" are both words for "breath." This article shows how the Hebrew word nephesh (translated "soul" in the Old Testament) is used in other complete non-spiritual contexts. It also shows how nephesh are said only to go to graves, pits, and silence- never a place of eternal torture. |
||||
|
||||
|
jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009 Location: Guatemala Status: Offline Points: 6802 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 14:58 |
|||
|
Great explanation about the Devil, it's true that the image of the Devil is just a collage of different passages that has no link between them...
Now, I have a huge doubt about Rob concepto of soul. I been checking the Bible and it is mention the concept of Spirit and Soul many times. Especially on the letters of Paul, he's talking most of the time about the Holy Spirit and everything is related to it... can you explain me a little about it Rob please..? thanks...
|
||||
|
|
||||
|
||||
|
timothy leary
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 14:50 |
|||
|
To the closing................posting Dredgs lyrics might get this site in trouble........just saying
|
||||
|
||||
|
Slartibartfast
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 14:42 |
|||
I know a few things, but not True Blood. Seitan on the other hand is an interesting meat substitute unless you are allergic to wheat gluten. OK, all you Christians out there who have had experience with Seitan in this form, hold your hands up. Edited by Slartibartfast - July 05 2010 at 14:46 |
||||
|
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
|
||||
|
||||
|
JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 14:37 |
|||
You a True Blood fan? 'Cause that totally put me in mind of the season two finale. ''WORSHIP HIM, BITCHES!!!''
Edited by JLocke - July 05 2010 at 14:40 |
||||
|
||||
|
Slartibartfast
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 14:29 |
|||
Neatly packaged and labeled for your convenience... What??? no get thee back to the prog chef sections?.... Edited by Slartibartfast - July 05 2010 at 14:44 |
||||
|
||||
|
Epignosis
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32589 |
Posted: July 05 2010 at 14:29 |
|||
You've hit the nail on the head. I do not get why translators don't translate "Satan" and "Devil." It is an obvious bias on their part. If translated, you would be left with "adversary" and "slanderer," respectively. Turning them into proper names makes the passages read in ways they weren't meant to be read. However, if you check out Young's Literal Translation (something really helpful for studying the Bible), you will find "satan" is translated "adversary." Unfortunately, it is a failing that "devil" isn't translated "slanderer" or "false accuser" (John 6:70 says Jesus answered them, `Did not I choose you -- the twelve? and of you -- one is a devil. ...Obviously he's talking about Judas, but Judas was a human being...a false accusing or slanderous human being). Definition one is cool, but two requires a bias to accept. |
||||
|
||||
|
Post Reply
|
Page <1 6364656667 92> |
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |
The Christian Thread
Topic Options
Slartibartfast wrote:
