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richardh 
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 Posted: March 24 2011 at 16:43 |
 Altti_H wrote:
IQ is definetly my favourite band among "new ones".
I bought "Dark Matter" when it was released and immediately fell in love. Strong compositions, enjoyable vocals and professional playing.
After that gold nugget I have bought all IQ's albums and liked most of them.
Frequency was an iteresting one. At first I didn't like it at all, vut after 5-6 listenings (on backroud) i got into it. Now Frequency competes well with the very best ones.
Current ordering:
The Seventh House
Dark Matter
Frequency
Tales From The Lush Attic
Subterranea
Ever
The Wake
Are You Sitting Comfortably
Nomzamo
I have not found "Seven Stories Into Eight". Only dvd is the one that came with Frequency, it is as well enjoyable.
So, I recommend every Symphonic Prog listener to give a chance to IQ.
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The great thing about IQ is that they have no bad albums. My least favourite is Nomzamo but I'm quite happy to give it the occasional spin.
Shame you can't track down Seven Stories into Ninety Eight as its well worth having. I checked Amazon UK and its currently unavailable.
You could try this specialist prog supplier
you could e-mail them
They will retain your e-mail at least and let you know if they do track down a copy.
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Altti_H
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Posted: March 24 2011 at 08:26 |
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IQ is definetly my favourite band among "new ones".
I bought "Dark Matter" when it was released and immediately fell in love. Strong compositions, enjoyable vocals and professional playing.
After that gold nugget I have bought all IQ's albums and liked most of them.
Frequency was an iteresting one. At first I didn't like it at all, vut after 5-6 listenings (on backroud) i got into it. Now Frequency competes well with the very best ones.
Current ordering:
The Seventh House
Dark Matter
Frequency
Tales From The Lush Attic
Subterranea
Ever
The Wake
Are You Sitting Comfortably
Nomzamo
I have not found "Seven Stories Into Eight". Only dvd is the one that came with Frequency, it is as well enjoyable.
So, I recommend every Symphonic Prog listener to give a chance to IQ.
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richardh
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Posted: March 24 2011 at 02:58 |
rod65 wrote:
I've just noticed that Paul Menel has released a new album, and it appeals that John Jowitt is his bassist. Has anybody heard the album? Any thoughts on it? |
Not sure that there is an album. Amazon has a sample of one song that was released as a single last year. Had a listen but its not encouraging me to go and get the album assuming it exists.
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rod65
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Posted: March 24 2011 at 00:21 |
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I've just noticed that Paul Menel has released a new album, and it appeals that John Jowitt is his bassist. Has anybody heard the album? Any thoughts on it?
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Posted: January 14 2011 at 13:30 |
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Looks like Tim Esau is back. It'll be interesting to see how he has developed.
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Harry Hood
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Posted: January 11 2011 at 19:02 |
Wow, both the website's search function and google failed to find this thread. But I knew it existed. I had to bruteforce my way through the pages and I finally found it! I knew I wasn't crazy.
I'm currently listening to Tales From The Lush Attic for the first time. I'm not really all that familiar with pre-Ever IQ (aside from the songs they've played on various concert DVD's). I'm really digging it so far.
It's interesting, they seem to have gotten their start as something of a Genesis clone band. I knew about this but I wasn't aware of how far they took it back then. Tim Esau lifts a lot of basslines straight from Mike Rutherford, and Peter Nichols seems to attempt some kind of forced Gabriel raspiness, but he occasionally forgets to do it and slips into his natural vocals. 
Even in their humble beginnings you can hear various ideas that showcase what the band would go on to become. The album feels like a natural precursor to Dark Matter, an album which brilliantly combined their early-Genesis influence with everything they learned over the years.
Despite some of the recent personnel changes, I'm still optimistic about the possibility of a new album. Frequency was fantastic despite the absence of Orford (or possibly even because of it). I just hope that whoever they get to replace John Jowitt has new and interesting ideas to contribute to the band.
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 19:26 |
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IQ is one of the few bands that really know how to use and to project the synths.
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richardh
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 16:35 |
Snow Dog wrote:
richardh wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Can anyone tell an ignorant man why Peter Nicholls left IQ after The Wake? |
One view that I've seen put forward was that Nicholls suffered badly from stage fright and as IQ was beginning to attract a bit of attention and were on the verge a record deal with a major label he decided he couldn't handle being the front man anymore.I'm not sure exactly how true all that is although it is well known that he had a big problem with stage fright.
I've also read that Paul Menel was the only person who turned up for the audition to replace him.  |
Luckily he was a pretty good replacement. Do you think?
Alhtough I love Nicholls voice so much its a hard act to follow for me. |
Talented bloke.I'm not massively keen on Nomzamo but I like Are You Sitting Comfortably which has some great songs and a nice blend of pop/prog perhaps comparable to It Bites (Drive On = Calling All The Heroes??). Pleased that Nicholls came back but respect to Menel for keeping the band going and filling a position that was virtually unfillable.
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 13:09 |
richardh wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Can anyone tell an ignorant man why Peter Nicholls left IQ after The Wake? |
One view that I've seen put forward was that Nicholls suffered badly from stage fright and as IQ was beginning to attract a bit of attention and were on the verge a record deal with a major label he decided he couldn't handle being the front man anymore.I'm not sure exactly how true all that is although it is well known that he had a big problem with stage fright.
I've also read that Paul Menel was the only person who turned up for the audition to replace him. |
Luckily he was a pretty good replacement. Do you think?
Alhtough I love Nicholls voice so much its a hard act to follow for me.
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richardh
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 13:07 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Can anyone tell an ignorant man why Peter Nicholls left IQ after The Wake? |
One view that I've seen put forward was that Nicholls suffered badly from stage fright and as IQ was beginning to attract a bit of attention and were on the verge a record deal with a major label he decided he couldn't handle being the front man anymore.I'm not sure exactly how true all that is although it is well known that he had a big problem with stage fright.
I've also read that Paul Menel was the only person who turned up for the audition to replace him.
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rod65
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Posted: November 06 2010 at 23:27 |
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My only experience with IQ is their last FREQUENCY album which I find very good.
So, which one next? |
OK. Given my avatar, it is pretty bloody obvious that I am going to recommend Subterranea. But I suggest holding off until after both Dark Matter and The Wake. Subterranea is, I think, one of the best concept albums around in any genre, but to appreciate it fully, you should have a fuller sense of this band's range than any single album, even such an excellent album as Frequency, can give. So my suggestion is this: You have seen their present state, so dig back into their past, ideally with both The Wake and Tales from the Lush Attic, but at the very least with The Wake. Then flash forward to Dark Matter. Having listened to and appreciated these albums, lose yourself in Subterranea until it feels like part of you, and then explore The Seventh House and Ever. Next, check out the two Menel albums, Nomzamo and Are You Sitting Comfortably, which many people overlook that which I believe have their own particular excellence. Then have fun with any live album that comes your way.
They are all good. Enjoy.
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Harry Hood
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Posted: November 06 2010 at 23:12 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
My only experience with IQ is their last FREQUENCY album which I find very good.
So, which one next? |
Subterranea. It won't click with you at first, but try it nonetheless. Then get Dark Matter. Then after being well acquainted with Dark Matter, go back to Subterranea. You'll finally get it and it will feel awesome.
Then Seventh House and Ever (simultaneously for the best effect). Then all the live stuff you can get your hands on.
Feels good, man.
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Posted: November 06 2010 at 12:52 |
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Can anyone tell an ignorant man why Peter Nicholls left IQ after The Wake? |
From memory, it was to pursue a professional career outside of IQ and recorded music, but there is a health warning attached to my memory, and I stand to be corrected
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Posted: November 06 2010 at 08:13 |
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I'd say either their first album The Wake, or their previous album Dark Matter should be the next.
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Posted: November 06 2010 at 07:56 |
My only experience with IQ is their last FREQUENCY album which I find very good.
So, which one next?
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Posted: November 06 2010 at 07:48 |
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Can anyone tell an ignorant man why Peter Nicholls left IQ after The Wake?
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Posted: November 06 2010 at 07:39 |
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Just finished listening to Dark Matter and confirmed my and other's feeling that there really isn't a Supper's Ready or The Knife sound on Harvest of Souls and Sacred Sound. The Genesis influence on IQ's music is there, but not any specific song. That said, I really enjoy this album, I find it one of their best from a playing, writing and production stand point. Some one mentioned Paul Cook's drumming in this thread and I must say he is marvelous on this. There are sections in Harvest of Souls where his drumming is just top notch!! Forgot how much I like this album!!
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Posted: November 05 2010 at 15:08 |
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My alphabetical listening pattern brought me through IQ and after a brief respite with Iron Maiden and IZZ, the band Jadis has now landed on my MP3 player. I only have their debut More Than Meets The Eye, the deluxe version with 13 extra tracks, and their 2 latest Fanatic and Photoplay. Not surprisingly with Martin Orford and John Jowitt aboard there is a similar sound to IQ. Good stuff. I think that I might have to download the middle albums to give them a shot.
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Posted: November 05 2010 at 13:29 |
lazland wrote:
richardh wrote:
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I don't hear Suppers Ready in any song by IQ. I find these comments mysterious. |
Harvest Of Souls does have a structure very reminescent of Suppers Ready but really in a much broader sense rather than a direct rip off as such. I do hear bits of The Knife in Sacred Sound but no one else agrees with me on that one
Martin Orford was actually very unhappy about the Genesis comparison and argued strongly against it. |
Orford was right to be unhappy. Like Snow Dog, I find the comparisons utterly mysterious and bizarre.
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It's entirely possible that, having listened to Supper's Ready so often that it is imprinted on my brain, I tend to hear it in every long prog composition I encounter whether it is really there or not. Seriously, to my ear at least, Orford's touch in the keyboards often reminds me of banks, but not in a way that I can quantify. In Last Human Gateway, Nicholls sounds very much like Gabriel, a similarity that he has long since moved beyond, much to his credit. It is possible, therefore, that this similarity has led me to see hear more of Genesis in Gateway than is actually there. Regarding Harvest of Souls, my sense of similarity here has primarily to do with the themes addressed, the general feel on the keyboards in places, and the ebb and flow of the composition. As I said, though, I may be reading in what is not actually there. Probably, I shoudl give both epics a fresh listen.
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Posted: November 05 2010 at 06:36 |
richardh wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I don't hear Suppers Ready in any song by IQ. I find these comments mysterious. |
Harvest Of Souls does have a structure very reminescent of Suppers Ready but really in a much broader sense rather than a direct rip off as such. I do hear bits of The Knife in Sacred Sound but no one else agrees with me on that one
Martin Orford was actually very unhappy about the Genesis comparison and argued strongly against it. |
Orford was right to be unhappy. Like Snow Dog, I find the comparisons utterly mysterious and bizarre.
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