Bin Laden is dead.

Snow Dog wrote: A believer can be a thinker too. That much is obvious.

Or if you want to take my long winded rambling post and condense it....what he said

Wow, me a "believer"?
I will let that slide since you don't deal with me on a regular basis
But yeah, ask any regular of the SR how much of a pain in the ass I am, especially with never going along with anything!

Of course relatives were not taken along.
And if you'd like to start a thread for this, please do but the 9/11 issue and everything involved with it is a big, complex web and frankly I care not to go into here and now. Long story short, of course I don't believe everything as is 100% that is just foolish on many levels. However, I also don't think it's as devilish as many think and that while no one wants to say this, governments keep secrets either because they think us lowly citizens can't handle it or they deem it dangerous to the nation. I mean every government. As sad as that is they hold such opinions of us, it's reality and does not equate to a sinister plot.

All my opinion, how the hell can we know either way?
Cheers


Edited by JJLehto - May 03 2011 at 05:03

Snow Dog wrote: This joke I found on FB To prove it was Bin Laden that was killed, DNA swabs were taken from the mouth, anus and penis of the corpse. The results are just in and are showing alarmingly high levels of goat

HEY OH!

I'm guessing you are a 9/11 inside jobber/don't believe this is really him?
I respect your opinion but I see it going down a bad road..so I'm respectfully bowing out before I make myself look worse than I already do

This was planned for months though, not like "hey we found him whadya know" I mean the actual operation took 40 minutes! They had everything planned and lined up perfectly. Which would mean things such as verification were also ready to be prepared swiftly. IMHO of course.


Edited by JJLehto - May 03 2011 at 04:47

JJLehto wrote: I believe they used physical evidence and confirmation of family members, while still waiting for the official DNA results.

That's not what they said; the statement was he was identified by comparing his DNA to the DNA of family members.. And anyway, how would it be possible to get confirmation from family members? His body was thrown into the sea.

What really is strange that the USA claim to have identified Bin Laden by comparing his DNA to the DNA of relatives. Do you have any idea how long a DNA analysis takes? Not to mention a sample of Bin Laden had to be transported to a facility where such an analysis is possible. Yet a few hours after his alleged death the USA claim to have identified him by his DNA! This is absolutely impossible!

Edited by BaldFriede - May 03 2011 at 03:59

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: They are suggesting Bin Laden used one of his wives as a human shield when the US invaded his hideout. This is as barbaric as he would get. BL - A real waste of oxygen.

They have changed that part of the story. Personally I never believed in it.

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_664114.html

JJLehto wrote: Watching MSNBC is great. The liberal network, which of course was harshly opposed to use of torture, is now nonchalantly talking about "enhanced interrogations" not being supportive but saying "eh well guess it ended up working out in the end".

That is because the so-called "liberal bias" in American media is a myth, fabricated by conservative bank-rollers like the Koch Brothers and conservative think-tanks like the Heritage Foundation.  True liberalism is not consistently relayed by mainstream corporate media channels, who know all too well that the viewing audience does not regularly buy into such philosophy.  Instead, a watered-down leftist centrism designed to allow for "both sides" of the issue  is used, in place of strict leftist rhetoric.  Bill Maher once gave a very accurate assessment of the situation in one interview, arguing that the democrats are the centrists, the republicans are the right wing sector, and the tea party the extremist right wing loons of American politics.  There are no true die-hard liberals running the government now, nor have there been for decades.  Otherwise, we would have all started driving electric cars years ago by government mandate as a result of signing the Kyoto Protocol (instead of rehashing pointless debates over the validity of Roe vs. Wade, and other neo-conservative gimmick issues).      

You would be suprised as to how easy it is to go under grown and escape radars, and it is an old saying that describes it  (abruptly like this)  the best way to stay invicable is to be where no one will think twise where to look at. every one though OH HE IS IN DA MOUNTAINS when he actualy was in Islamabad  (all day long)

Edited by aginor - May 03 2011 at 01:40

The T wrote: The Dark Elf wrote: One last thing, how is it that Pakistan should miss bin Laden's presence only minutes from downtown Islamabad, their capital? Is the presence of a newly-built and heavily-guarded palatial compound such an everyday occurence as to escape notice? Something to think about. Not only that but they're saying this compound was 100 yards from an important military complex or something... The Pakistani government always knew probably, and that's why the operation was conducted without their participation or knowledge...

Edited by The Dark Elf - May 03 2011 at 00:02