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Posted: May 05 2011 at 04:54
lazland wrote:
aginor wrote:
france and birttain also have someeting to do with the conflict in the mideleast, when they after 1st World war, took each others parts of the old Ottoman empire and made new borders
Indeed, good old Imperial Great Britain is responsible for laying down the roots of the majority of present day conflicts in the world, a fact I am utterly ashamed of.
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Posted: May 05 2011 at 04:39
Epignosis wrote:
Negoba wrote:
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I'm not impressed with his dealing with the economic disaster that was dropped in his lap, but this is just nonsense.
Visit the Libertarian Thread for the numbers and my assessment of why we are where we are. <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">The economic disaster was not really "dropped" in his lap. Politicians have throughout the past several decades created inevitable economic disaster, and further disaster is only inevitable.More spending, more borrowing...eventually the boat is too overwhelmed and sinks.I am not a doomsayer, but our country's financial state is one situation where I genuinely believe we are f**ked.
You could try what most people are doing to overcome the stress and anxiety caused by our empires decline; you could just pretend it isn't happening, in the unspoken hope that maybe you were wrong all along, and the banks and their servants in government were right, and unlimited debt and currency devaluation are for some reason the key to prosperity and growth..
Anyway, I'm being flippant. This has come at a great time for Obama; crap economy, troops still in Iraq, a new war front open in Libya, pre-election pledges not honoured, birth certiface guff in the media, and now all of a sudden he is a hero. His second term is in all probabilty in the bag. Turned out nice..
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Posted: May 05 2011 at 03:27
lazland wrote:
aginor wrote:
france and birttain also have someeting to do with the conflict in the mideleast, when they after 1st World war, took each others parts of the old Ottoman empire and made new borders
Indeed, good old Imperial Great Britain is responsible for laying down the roots of the majority of present day conflicts in the world, a fact I am utterly ashamed of.
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 23:45
JJLehto wrote:
Well, fair enough. I've griped about Stewart being a faux comedian/pundit hybrid enough anyway, heh
Yeah, Jon Stewart has pretty well crossed the line between comedian and liberal whip by now. Granted, he can still be funny at times. Just not nearly as often as he was 10 years ago. Colbert is both funnier and more incisive than Stewart these days.
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 23:01
JJLehto wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
There was another bit where he roasted Obama about selling out, and Obama smiled but it jabbed a bit you could tell. At least Seth is actually pretty funny, compared to the tired Jon Stewart and Colbert routines...
HAHA! Yes, so truth. But you're not a liberal right? I only ask because I've noticed almost all conservatives dislike Stewart, while all liberals seem to find him funny. I wonder if it has to do with him becoming a non comedian and just serious?
The video is alright. It is quite scary how politicians can have a poker face as perfect as Obama's in the moment you mentioned. That's what gets them elected: being the best fakers in town. That tells you a lot of the lovely game of politics.
I still find Stewart funny though a little wrong. I haven't stopped liking him even after my turn to the dark side. There are other comedians like Maher that I just can't stand now though...
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 22:38
JJLehto wrote:
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That statement in quotes is 100% true and deeply saddening to me, but I just wanted to make sure you weren't trying to say us normal people are to blame for picking this fight!
Damn Brian it took you a long time to reply to this
Of course not Brian of course not. The US government picked this fight. Sadly, in this government-ruled world, countries in the world stage are represented by their governments, but the victims and the ones who pay for all the government's errors and stupidities are the masses, the peoples. Choose any war you want. It was a few government officials who always started wars, it was never a matter of the entire people of one country hating the entire people of another one. A few politicians battle for something, they want something, and they use the people to fight, bleed and die to get what they want.
Basically Brian, it's just the opposite of what they have always sold you and me and everybody: governments are not there to fight for us, WE are there to fight for them.
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 18:43
JJLehto wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
There was another bit where he roasted Obama about selling out, and Obama smiled but it jabbed a bit you could tell. At least Seth is actually pretty funny, compared to the tired Jon Stewart and Colbert routines...
HAHA! Yes, so truth. But you're not a liberal right? I only ask because I've noticed almost all conservatives dislike Stewart, while all liberals seem to find him funny. I wonder if it has to do with him becoming a non comedian and just serious?
I don't know what I am. I find that when either side starts spouting, I dislike them both pretty quickly. I think the country peaked in the 50s and early 60s, so that just makes me old I guess. I consider myself fairly moderate.
I like Seth though, because despite being a flaming liberal, at least he makes me laugh audibly almost every week, and few "comedians" make me really laugh. They should sack Stewart and give Seth his show.
There was another bit where he roasted Obama about selling out, and Obama smiled but it jabbed a bit you could tell. At least Seth is actually pretty funny, compared to the tired Jon Stewart and Colbert routines...
HAHA! Yes, so truth. But you're not a liberal right? I only ask because I've noticed almost all conservatives dislike Stewart, while all liberals seem to find him funny. I wonder if it has to do with him becoming a non comedian and just serious?
I'm not impressed with his dealing with the economic disaster that was dropped in his lap, but this is just nonsense.
Visit the Libertarian Thread for the numbers and my assessment of why we are where we are.
The economic disaster was not really "dropped" in his lap. Politicians have throughout the past several decades created inevitable economic disaster, and further disaster is only inevitable.
More spending, more borrowing...eventually the boat is too overwhelmed and sinks.
I am not a doomsayer, but our country's financial state is one situation where I genuinely believe we are f**ked.
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 16:39
There was another bit where he roasted Obama about selling out, and Obama smiled but it jabbed a bit you could tell. At least Seth is actually pretty funny, compared to the tired Jon Stewart and Colbert routines...
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 16:18
aginor wrote:
I guess im the only one who reacted abit odd that they used the code name Geronimo for Osama, I think that is not very clever or smart, and discriminating.
No, you're not alone : the editorialist of the French communist newspaper L'Humanité also felt a bit disturbed by the use of "Geronimo" and I can feel the same way.
1. The mission isn't accomplished. 2. Obama promised to bring home the troops. 3. His financial aims would do more to destroy America than any foreign threat ever could.
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Posted: May 04 2011 at 16:08
aginor wrote:
I guess im the only one who reacted abit odd that they used the code name Geronimo for Osama, I think that is not very clever or smart, and discriminating.
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lazland wrote:
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">The economic disaster was not really "dropped" in his lap. Politicians have throughout the past several decades created inevitable economic disaster, and further disaster is only inevitable.More spending, more borrowing...eventually the boat is too overwhelmed and sinks.I am not a doomsayer, but our country's financial state is one situation where I genuinely believe we are f**ked.
