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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer
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Posted: June 25 2011 at 23:19 |
Harry Hood wrote:
Because this album exists and Kid A sounds kind of like it. |
In many way, Kid A IS like Krautrock and 'Head were influenced by it. On topic, it would be a whole lot simpler if we split all prog into art rock and experimental rock because that's what it boils down to. I don't understand the artificial distinction between say Elton John (his 70s work) and Supertramp and then, going further towards prog, Genesis. The word "progressive" is a misnomer and terribly confusing when applied to classify music into genres. At least, art rock or experimental rock tell you more about the nature of the music and casts aside the age old debate of whether or not it has progressed music, blah blah. But I am guessing if you do that, you can't have a dozen sub genres and we know music listeners just love a hundreds of sub genres to confuse the s*** out of newbies.
Edited by rogerthat - June 25 2011 at 23:24
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Harry Hood
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Posted: June 25 2011 at 23:37 |
Basically, Radiohead managed to convince a lot of young, impressionable people that were "unique" and "original" and such. A lot of these young impressionable people branched off into other things on their musical journey. Some of them gravitated to alt. rock, some of them to classic rock and prog.
I was one of those young impressionable people once upon a time. I don't really listen to Radiohead much these days. I'll put on the occasional track for nostalgia's sake. But I think they've earned their place on this site, if only because they were the beginning of many a young person's journey to progressive music.
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akaBona
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Location: Finland
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 03:08 |
Slaughternalia wrote:
What difference does it make? Prog, not prog. It's awesome music either way |
don't matter how to call it, it's just crap.
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my_left_brain
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Joined: June 04 2011
Location: Noordwolde (fr)
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 05:18 |
haha, and yes I have read all the reactions
(I am actually attuned to prog rock of course, otherwise I wouldn't have an account on this site, don't you think?)
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dr prog
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Location: Melbourne
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 05:31 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 05:54 |
Well, this old guy came to know Radiohead after Hail To The Thief and they are progressive unless you have a narrow minded view of what prog actually is. To dismiss it as crap is short sighted.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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richardh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 12:42 |
Radiohead are a modern progressive rock band as long as you are happy to change the definition from the sound of ELP,Yes,Genesis etc.They don't do bombast though but they do do emotion
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lazland
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 12:47 |
Without a doubt prog related, but my opinion of the band has sharply reduced lately. Like most prog fans, I found The Bends & OK Computer utter genius. Kid A, I thought, was a brave counterpoint to these, a statement, if you like, of not being buttonholed. However, thereafter, I've found it all a bit of a bore.
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!
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Slaughternalia
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 14:58 |
lazland wrote:
Without a doubt prog related, but my opinion of the band has sharply reduced lately. Like most prog fans, I found The Bends & OK Computer utter genius. Kid A, I thought, was a brave counterpoint to these, a statement, if you like, of not being buttonholed. However, thereafter, I've found it all a bit of a bore. |
"he doesn't like In Rainbows"
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I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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Earendil
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Joined: November 17 2008
Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 19:02 |
lazland wrote:
Without a doubt prog related, but my opinion of the band has sharply reduced lately. Like most prog fans, I found The Bends & OK Computer utter genius. Kid A, I thought, was a brave counterpoint to these, a statement, if you like, of not being buttonholed. However, thereafter, I've found it all a bit of a bore. |
I actually really like the electronic, experimental sound of their later work. King of Limbs was just above average, but I think Hail to the Thief is extremely underrated and In Rainbows is excellent as well.
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Warthur
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Location: London, UK
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 05:02 |
I'm from the UK and I was 15 when OK Computer came out, and let me tell you, it was a seriously big deal. Suddenly experimentation and long multi-section songs weren't instant grounds for derision and mockery, thanks to songs like "Paranoid Android". It wasn't necessarily to everyone's taste, but more or less everyone who got really, really into OK Computer became interested in exploring other obscure music. In my case it led to prog, in other people's cases it led in other directions, but still, it was an eye-opener to a generation otherwise brought up on Britpop bands like Blur and Oasis, neither of whom I have much time for (though I will always loudly defend the merits of Pulp, who were sheer geniuses.)
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lazland
Prog Reviewer
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 11:23 |
Slaughternalia wrote:
lazland wrote:
Without a doubt prog related, but my opinion of the band has sharply reduced lately. Like most prog fans, I found The Bends & OK Computer utter genius. Kid A, I thought, was a brave counterpoint to these, a statement, if you like, of not being buttonholed. However, thereafter, I've found it all a bit of a bore. |
"he doesn't like In Rainbows" |
Is the one on the left you 
Nope, true, aside from a couple of very good tracks (Nude & Videotape). I find Yorke's constant whines a little bit grating, to be honest.
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The T
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Joined: October 16 2006
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 12:18 |
No. Basically, we can call Radiohead prog because:
1. Nobody has ever truly, 100% definitive, defined "prog". 2. Radiohead fans need to have the band here in PA to feel better 3. Ok Computer is a great album so I guess it "has to be prog".
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OT Räihälä
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 17:22 |
In my opinion Radiohead is the most progressive rock band at the moment, because of their exploratory nature. Sure, they don't sound like old prog greats, but that is because they really try to find something new and not to stamp on old paths. That cannot be said of 90% of the new "prog" bands, which are rather regressive than progressive.
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richardh
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 02:01 |
OT Räihälä wrote:
In my opinion Radiohead is the most progressive rock band at the moment, because of their exploratory nature. Sure, they don't sound like old prog greats, but that is because they really try to find something new and not to stamp on old paths. That cannot be said of 90% of the new "prog" bands, which are rather regressive than progressive. |
I agree
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The Neck Romancer
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Location: Brazil
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 12:06 |
OT Räihälä wrote:
In my opinion Radiohead is the most progressive rock band at the moment, because of their exploratory nature. |
I suppose you don't explore much as I believe there's a lot of more forward-thinking new bands.
Kayo Dot, for example, is undoubtely the most innovative project of the last 31 years.
Sure, they don't sound like old prog greats, but that is because they really try to find something new and not to stamp on old paths. That cannot be said of 90% of the new "prog" bands, which are rather regressive than progressive. |
Agreed. That's why I hate neo-prog.
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Triceratopsoil
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Location: Canada
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 12:07 |
Polo wrote:
OT Räihälä wrote:
In my opinion Radiohead is the most progressive rock band at the moment, because of their exploratory nature. |
I suppose you don't explore much as I believe there's a lot of more forward-thinking new bands.
Kayo Dot, for example, is undoubtely the most innovative project of the last 31 years.
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The Truth
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Joined: April 19 2009
Location: Kansas
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 12:28 |
*inserts something about Kayo Dot like a fanboy*
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 13:42 |
lol Tanner, I'm not a Kayo Dot fanboy. I just like Choirs of the Eye and Coyote a lot.
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The Truth
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 14:15 |
Polo wrote:
lol Tanner, I'm not a Kayo Dot fanboy. I just like Choirs of the Eye and Coyote a lot. |
Hey, that's where I stand! Brohoof.
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