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ProgBob 
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 Posted: December 11 2011 at 18:19 |
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Snow Dog wrote:
I just don't understand the love for The Smiths. I will never like them. I like Suede tho.... |
I'll go further - the whole bloody "Madchester" scene with the Smiths, Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, Oasis and the like was the biggest crock of s**t I have ever heard. |
Given that you went on to admit that you have heard Toto, that can't be true.
BTW The Smiths had absolutely nothing to do with the 'Madchester' scene - and nor did Oasis for that matter. In fact, it is a bit bizarre to see those two bands in the same list. Geography really is the only connection. It's a bit like saying I hate all that Swedish music like Abba and The Flower Kings.
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The_Jester
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Posted: December 11 2011 at 19:29 |
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I listen to art.
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La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle!
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cstack3
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Posted: December 11 2011 at 21:39 |
.....sometimes....I dress like a girl and listen to lots and lots of ABBA.
Just saying that makes me feel dirty....
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progistoomainstream
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Posted: December 11 2011 at 22:54 |
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I completely deleted all true prog from my iTunes account (it is on a backup cd) and lent my vynil and Cds to various friends to prevent myself from falling off the wagon. ( I have no considered it an addiction)
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octopus-4
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 00:47 |
I don't listen to prog only, but it's in general what gives me more listening pleasure. Exploring other genres is a good thing, but why a so poor thing like hip-hop? I have heard horrible things coming from the radios: Comfortably Numb and Can You Understand(Renaissance) used by rappers to shutter their usual-standardized-explicit-sex-false-revolutionary-I'm-a-bad-guy-but-the-world-is-too-bad stuff. If you want to get off of prog try with Jazz or Classic, at least World and New-age. What can you find in hip-hop?
Said so, one thing doesn't exclude another and "prog" is just a label.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 00:50 |
octopus-4 wrote:
What can you find in hip-hop? |
There is a lot to be found that doesn't fall under the stereotype you described if one is willing to look with an open mind  Although I agree with Jazz and Classical being a priority. But that is my personal taste. He should explore what he feels like.
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octopus-4
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 00:54 |
The Miracle wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
What can you find in hip-hop? |
There is a lot to be found that doesn't fall under the stereotype you described if one is willing to look with an open mind
Although I agree with Jazz and Classical being a priority. But that is my personal taste. He should explore what he feels like. |
You are right, also in saying that even hip-hop has good moments (I have one album of Outkast that's very jazzy sometimes) but the average is so poor that I give up to digging inside the genre as well as in most of the mainstream. Regardless the genre, put some "art" or "heart" in a song and I'll probably like it. With hip.hop it doesn't happen often.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 00:55 |
progistoomainstream wrote:
I completely deleted all true prog from my iTunes account (it is on a backup cd) and lent my vynil and Cds to various friends to prevent myself from falling off the wagon. ( I have no considered it an addiction) |
Well that's silly. I'd never give away my CD's to anyone. Especially since last time I lent my CD's to a friend, he forgot them in the middle of the road and had them run over by a car.
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The Miracle
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 00:57 |
octopus-4 wrote:
You are right, also in saying that even hip-hop has good moments (I have one album of Outkast that's very jazzy sometimes) but the average is so poor that I give up to digging inside the genre as well as in most of the mainstream. Regardless the genre, put some "art" or "heart" in a song and I'll probably like it. With hip.hop it doesn't happen often. |
As far as mainstream rap goes, that's probably true. But there's an underground hip hop scene that appears to have a lot of great stuff that's worth exploring if you're interested. I know practically nothing about it so I shouldn't speculate further. But that's the impression I got from hanging out with people who are into it.
Edited by The Miracle - December 12 2011 at 01:00
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Canterzeuhl
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 01:03 |
The_Jester wrote:
I listen to art. |
Agreed.
I don't hear much art in Hippity-Hop, maybe the lyrics take some skill but otherwise I find it quickly tedious.
Unless there's any Prog/Hip-Hop, I'd be interested to hear that.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 01:24 |
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Although prog is my true musical love, I do have an unhealthy obsession with girly punk/pop bands, especially from the 60's! I've got quite a good vinyl collection of them, and tons of compilations from the 50's-60's to now. There's a number of great modern bands, such as the Gore Gore Girls, The Excessories, Sit N' Spin, The Bobbyteens, The Riff Randells, etc that provide terrific trashy pop gems!
I find after listening to prog so much, it makes you appreciate a really good pop song more when you hear it! Almost a relief! :)
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akaBona
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 01:38 |
octopus-4 wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
What can you find in hip-hop? |
There is a lot to be found that doesn't fall under the stereotype you described if one is willing to look with an open mind
Although I agree with Jazz and Classical being a priority. But that is my personal taste. He should explore what he feels like. |
You are right, also in saying that even hip-hop has good moments (I have one album of Outkast that's very jazzy sometimes) but the average is so poor that I give up to digging inside the genre as well as in most of the mainstream. Regardless the genre, put some "art" or "heart" in a song and I'll probably like it. With hip.hop it doesn't happen often. |
During the last months I have quite regularly listened Kanye West (My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy), I really enjoy it! He samples 21st Century Schizoid Man there, but it's not reason, the album is very good ;)
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Pastor Rex Cat
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 04:48 |
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I'm a genre hopper. I listen to whatever I'm in the mood for.
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Blacksword
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 07:59 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I always listen to a variety of music without thinking about the genre too much |
Same here really.
Never got bored of prog, but have always listened to other genres.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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progistoomainstream
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 18:16 |
octopus-4 wrote:
What can you find in hip-hop? |
I can find different and unique music (compared to historical music).
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 18:32 |
zappaholic wrote:
I mix it up too. Listening to just one type of music isn't good for you.
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I've never considered prog to be just one type of music.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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presdoug
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 19:49 |
cstack3 wrote:
.....sometimes....I dress like a girl and listen to lots and lots of ABBA.
Just saying that makes me feel dirty.... |
^ naughty,naughty cstack3! 
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The Quiet One
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 20:19 |
Pastor Rex Cat wrote:
I'm a genre hopper. I listen to whatever I'm in the mood for. |
Yes! 
It can be a whole week of Prog, it can be a whole week of Jazz. Or it can be an eclectic day full of different stuff, one never knows.
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octopus-4
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 23:54 |
progistoomainstream wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
What can you find in hip-hop? |
I can find different and unique music (compared to historical music). |
I want to be open minded, can you post an example?
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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uduwudu
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 01:26 |
Progosopher wrote:
Yes, I tire of it sometimes, which I can do for all the various genres and sub-genres I listen to. Fortunately, with a large and eclectic collection, I have no lack of listening material. The biggest challenge is often choosing something in particular! |
Not being funny here but I think everyone who listens to any music at all wants to listen to what they perceive as good music. This is why we have genre distinctions (and arguments). With this identification we can develop our interest. Recently I have been enjoying some (what I consider good to great) blues, Albert King, Roy Buchanan and the Rolling Stones. Then back to Pytor 'Psycho Tchaiko' Tchaikovsky who wrote my idea of dance music! Sometimes I wonder if there is too much music per se and it gets taken for granted with it's easy access and lack of audience responsibility in acquisition. Fya, I like this lyric. "Everybodty wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die." - Albert King.
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