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Points: 5160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2012 at 14:39
Well actually I thought about it myself after having posted but I was lazy to edit.
 
Psychedelic music predated Prog so for sure it can not be considered as a subset of Prog, only a subset of Psychedelic music can be called Psychedelic Prog.
 
Early Psychedelic (or later Psychedelic which followed on the same early principles) was not yet Prog, just trippy Pop-Rock.
 
I wrote my post thinking specifically about Pychedelic Prog, not Psychedelic music in general.
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2012 at 13:46
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

"Prog" in itself is the vast collection of the many sub-genres you can find in PA, and rivers of ink have been spent arguing about its definiton (needless to say without consensus).
 
Psychedelic is just one of Prog's subgenres, that music focussing on trippy atmospheres, dreamy and ethereal sound effects, often not too complex in terms of composition, structure and arrangements but which can keep itself busy for many minutes of hypnotic rythms and spacy improvisational soloings, ideal for listening to stoned.
 
Asking "what's the difference between Prog and Psychedelic" is like asking what's the difference between religion and catholicism.


I don't agree with you. Psych can be prog,and prog can be psych but one is not a subset of the other. A Venn diagram would be helpful.
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Points: 5160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 14:16
"Prog" in itself is the vast collection of the many sub-genres you can find in PA, and rivers of ink have been spent arguing about its definiton (needless to say without consensus).
 
Psychedelic is just one of Prog's subgenres, that music focussing on trippy atmospheres, dreamy and ethereal sound effects, often not too complex in terms of composition, structure and arrangements but which can keep itself busy for many minutes of hypnotic rythms and spacy improvisational soloings, ideal for listening to stoned.
 
Asking "what's the difference between Prog and Psychedelic" is like asking what's the difference between religion and catholicism.
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 10:22
More selfless? What are you talking about?

There is a lot of overlap between prog and psychedelia, but the two terms have different meanings Not all prog music is psychedelic and not all psychedelia is prog.

Prog tends to connote a certain degree of complexity and innovation in the music. Odd time signatures, long songs that are not simply extended jams and the influence of non-rock music.

Psychedelia is mainly about an atmosphere or feeling in the music, specifically "trippyness." Lots of reverb, flanging and phasing effects complete with drawn out instrumental sections and abstract lyrics can contribute to this.

To see the difference, look at a band like Cream. Tales of Brave Ulysses is a very psychedelic song, but there's nothing prog about it. Then look at Rush. La Villa Strangiato is very prog, but not at all psychedelic.

Then you have bands like Pink Floyd with feet planted firmly in both camps..
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Points: 1 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2012 at 10:13
Very simple : Psychedelic rock it's the same, that was before, but solos are longer, and more selfless. Music is very expressive.Prog is differ from psychedelia. It took many things from classical music, traditional music, ethnic and jazz.
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Points: 52 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2012 at 16:41
Can any of you give me a hand,when listening to prog and psychedelic i cant find any big differences between this genres of music?


Edited by Cloud Forest - August 19 2012 at 16:42
     
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