| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
Ivan_Melgar_M 
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 27 2004
Location: Peru
Status: Offline
Points: 19557
|
 Posted: December 26 2012 at 11:13 |
 Snow Dog wrote:
That's weird. I listened to Abacab and Genesis a lot but didn't lose anything. I still heard other bands. Guess I'm different. |
Every person has a different reaction.
Probably if I would grab to the remains of the glorious 70's, I would had lost part of the 80's, After listening ATTW3, Love Beach and Tormato, I knew it was time to expand my horizons and search for a new alternative, because the 70's, along with Genesis, Yes, ELP, etc, would never come back again.
It's true that UK, early 80s Moody Blues with Moraz and other transitional bands were close to the 70's but they were different and good, then came Neo Prog, which i First found boring and light, but being the only viable alternative, it started to capture me, but first I had to let the icons go.
Now, I'm a fan of the music Marillion, IQ, Pendragon, etc made, something that would had never happened if I remained exclusively faithful to the remains of Yes, Genesis and ELP.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - December 26 2012 at 11:18
|
|
|
 |
ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3150
|
Posted: December 27 2012 at 14:05 |
|
|
|
“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
|
|
Snow Dog
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: March 23 2005
Location: Caerdydd
Status: Offline
Points: 32995
|
Posted: December 27 2012 at 14:16 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
That's weird. I listened to Abacab and Genesis a lot but didn't lose anything. I still heard other bands. Guess I'm different. |
Now, I'm a fan of the music Marillion, IQ, Pendragon, etc made, something that would had never happened if I remained exclusively faithful to the remains of Yes, Genesis and ELP.
Iván
|
You are weird.
|
|
|
|
Earthmover
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 03 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 1509
|
Posted: December 27 2012 at 14:37 |
I'm going to assume you're joking.
|
|
|
|
docall27
Forum Newbie
Joined: December 22 2012
Location: Lake Geneva, WI
Status: Offline
Points: 35
|
Posted: December 29 2012 at 09:58 |
90125 by far. Used to listen to it a lot but not much now so I wouldn't consider it a "classic" album. On the other hand, I prefer to continually discover new music as opposed to listening to tried and true classics.
iluvmarillion wrote:
How do you decide between two really bad albums which gives progressive rock a bad name. I honestly prefer ABBA,
|
I don't know how you not liking something equates with bad. I get the impression through this thread that some people feel YES betrayed some Prog ideal by the direction they took with these albums. That just seems such a narrow minded way to think about music.
|
|
FordPrefect
Forum Newbie
Joined: January 12 2006
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 30
|
Posted: December 30 2012 at 16:19 |
|
'90125' is a fine album. The problem is that there is rather little prog in it. (So recommended to mainstream audiences)
'Big generator' has even less prog in it and is weak album from any angle you survey it.
|
|
Don't panic
|
|
Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 27 2004
Location: Peru
Status: Offline
Points: 19557
|
Posted: December 30 2012 at 16:40 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
That's weird. I listened to Abacab and Genesis a lot but didn't lose anything. I still heard other bands. Guess I'm different. |
Now, I'm a fan of the music Marillion, IQ, Pendragon, etc made, something that would had never happened if I remained exclusively faithful to the remains of Yes, Genesis and ELP.
Iván
|
You are weird. |
Yep
Normal is boring 
Iván
|
|
|
|
ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3150
|
Posted: December 31 2012 at 16:47 |
mister nobody wrote:
I'm going to assume you're joking. |
I ain't joking
|
|
crimhead
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: October 10 2006
Location: Missouri
Status: Offline
Points: 19236
|
Posted: January 01 2013 at 00:34 |
Heh heh heh.....Big Generator.
Heh heh heh heh heh
|
|
Progosopher
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 12 2009
Location: Coolwood
Status: Offline
Points: 6499
|
Posted: January 01 2013 at 02:05 |
|
90125 is preferable to me but there is a lot on Big Generator I also like, just not the title track. I try to take the albums as they come without tossing a load of baggage on top of them. It allows me to listen to the music as music rather than as a historical sequence. Neither of these are my favorite Yes albums, but that does not mean that I cannot enjoy them at all.
|
|
The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
|
|
Slartibartfast
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam
Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
|
Posted: January 01 2013 at 02:24 |
FordPrefect wrote:
'90125' is a fine album. The problem is that there is rather little prog in it. (So recommended to mainstream audiences)
'Big generator' has even less prog in it and is weak album from any angle you survey it.
|
As I recall, on 90210, Changes was OK.but I will never be the owner of boring fart on CD...
|
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
|
|
Earthmover
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 03 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 1509
|
Posted: January 01 2013 at 08:44 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
mister nobody wrote:
I'm going to assume you're joking. |
I ain't joking |
Oh, good. Then I hope you realize you're contradicting yourself.
|
|
|
|
twosteves
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 01 2007
Location: NYC/Rhinebeck
Status: Offline
Points: 4098
|
Posted: January 01 2013 at 09:34 |
Neither album has held up all that well for me because Rabin's guitar tricks and his Van Halen type rock guitar style---not that I don't occassionally try to listen to them from beginning to end as a huge Yes fan---but I haven't been able to get thru them also true of Talk----90125 is a little better as it has some of Horn's 80's production techniques he was using on his Art of Noise group and some other groups.
|
|
digdug
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 4707
|
Posted: January 02 2013 at 13:45 |
90125 for me
It's not pure prog for sure but I still enjoy listening to it
|
|
Prog On!
|
|
ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3150
|
Posted: January 02 2013 at 16:09 |
mister nobody wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
mister nobody wrote:
I'm going to assume you're joking. |
I ain't joking |
Oh, good. Then I hope you realize you're contradicting yourself. |
how??
|
|
“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
|
|
Earthmover
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 03 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 1509
|
Posted: January 02 2013 at 16:43 |
Someone says they don't like either of these two and that they would rather listen to ABBA (in other words, they think the albums are lame) - you call them close minded.
You say The Mars Volta are lame - it's okay, you're not close minded, it's just an opinion.
Edited by mister nobody - January 02 2013 at 16:44
|
|
|
|
ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3150
|
Posted: January 03 2013 at 01:49 |
mister nobody wrote:
Someone says they don't like either of these two and that they would rather listen to ABBA (in other words, they think the albums are lame) - you call them close minded.-they are close-minded because they don't accept change from Yes
You say The Mars Volta are lame - it's okay, you're not close minded, it's just an opinion.- as for the mars volta I just don't like them,that's my opinion we all have artists that we like and don't like does that make us all close-minded
|
you understand that better
|
|
“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
|
|
Earthmover
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 03 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 1509
|
Posted: January 03 2013 at 06:27 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
mister nobody wrote:
Someone says they don't like either of these two and that they would rather listen to ABBA (in other words, they think the albums are lame) - you call them close minded.-they are close-minded because they don't accept change from Yes
You say The Mars Volta are lame - it's okay, you're not close minded, it's just an opinion.- as for the mars volta I just don't like them,that's my opinion we all have artists that we like and don't like does that make us all close-minded
|
you understand that better |
you don't like The Mars Volta, someone doesn't like 90125/Big Generator. I honestly can't see the difference.
|
|
|
|
ProgMetaller2112
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3150
|
Posted: January 03 2013 at 20:59 |
mister nobody wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
mister nobody wrote:
Someone says they don't like either of these two and that they would rather listen to ABBA (in other words, they think the albums are lame) - you call them close minded.-they are close-minded because they don't accept change from Yes
You say The Mars Volta are lame - it's okay, you're not close minded, it's just an opinion.- as for the mars volta I just don't like them,that's my opinion we all have artists that we like and don't like does that make us all close-minded
|
you understand that better |
you don't like The Mars Volta, someone doesn't like 90125/Big Generator. I honestly can't see the difference. |
The Mars Volta is a band, 90125/ Big Generator are albums. For me, The Mars Volta are not my preference. Yes fans who dislike those albums either dislike them or are close-minded because those albums are a dramatic departure from the usual Yes sound and they are not willing to accept change, does that sound better
|
|
“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
|
|
Slartibartfast
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam
Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
|
Posted: January 04 2013 at 01:47 |
mister nobody wrote:
Someone says they don't like either of these two and that they would rather listen to ABBA (in other words, they think the albums are lame) - you call them close minded.
You say The Mars Volta are lame - it's okay, you're not close minded, it's just an opinion.
|
I'd rather not listen to either. I'm not close minded. There's just music that I listen to and music that I don't. Just because I don't like or listen to something doesn't mean is sucks.
|
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
90125 or Big Generator
