Your thoughts on Vegitarianism

^give it a rest will you? I'll express myself how I f**king please.

timothy leary wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Dean wrote: timothy leary wrote: Kosher cheese is safe for vegetarians as it contains no rennet per mosaic law. There are many cheeses which contain no rennet. There are many types of rennet which are not from the stomachs of young mammals. None of them in my opinion are a "noble cause" ... and Halal cheese.   But they still both rely on the death of cattle. And jewish death is even worse. Slit throat job. This is untrue. Kosher cheese does not rely on the death of cattle since it is made from non-animal rennet. I would also like to ask you how you have determined the Jewish process for animal slaughter is "worse"?

I often see/hear people describing the Jewish or Muslim way of slaughtering animals is worse than the... other way, because the animal had its throat cut without being battered to death.
In many European countries, it is asked to have the animals stunned pre-mortem, so they don't suffer when being slaughtered.
Of course, jews and muslims explain that the ritual killing by throat-cutting is meant to be quick and efficient, so the agony of the animal is short, but their arguments are often rebutted as invalid.
It's a controversy that is far from being exhausted, especially in a period of anti-muslim defiance.

Snow Dog wrote: Dean wrote: timothy leary wrote: Kosher cheese is safe for vegetarians as it contains no rennet per mosaic law. There are many cheeses which contain no rennet. There are many types of rennet which are not from the stomachs of young mammals. None of them in my opinion are a "noble cause" ... and Halal cheese.   But they still both rely on the death of cattle. And jewish death is even worse. Slit throat job.

Colombian necktie? 

I do not judge anyone, personally I am a pescatarian however I do eat eggs too. This said my whole family are carnivores and I am ok with it, so is my conscience plus I do not preach them. unless they ask me why then I'll make sure they understand why.

Dean wrote: timothy leary wrote: Kosher cheese is safe for vegetarians as it contains no rennet per mosaic law. There are many cheeses which contain no rennet. There are many types of rennet which are not from the stomachs of young mammals. None of them in my opinion are a "noble cause" ... and Halal cheese.   Can you drop the "noble cause" bit now? Didn't we clear that up yesterday?

After your big lecture yesterday about what the thread was about I just threw it in there for you

timothy leary wrote: Kosher cheese is safe for vegetarians as it contains no rennet per mosaic law. There are many cheeses which contain no rennet. There are many types of rennet which are not from the stomachs of young mammals. None of them in my opinion are a "noble cause"

... and Halal cheese.

Kosher cheese is safe for vegetarians as it contains no rennet per mosaic law. There are many cheeses which contain no rennet. There are many types of rennet which are not from the stomachs of young mammals. None of them in my opinion are a "noble cause"

Snow Dog wrote: I presume they were slaughtered. Never asked actually. Cows that didn't give milk enough were definitely slaughtered. There was no other use for them. I presume the male calves were too.

Animal rennet only comes from the stomach of a calf (it is an enzyme used to digest the milk - an adult cow or bull does not need it so does not produce it) - this is taken from the slaughtered calves - if veal is off the menu then the calf meat goes into pet food.

Snow Dog wrote: Gerinski wrote: Dean wrote:  Cheese is a meat product. Cheese production involves the death of a calf, both for the milk and the rennet required to curdle the milk.  I'm not an expert but I doubt that this is accurate. I believe that it's perfectly possible to obtain cow milk (and make cheese out of it) without jeopardizing the life of the cow and its calves. Whether this is what they actually do or not is something else. I just said so above. But some death is inevitable. There is no way any farmer will keep a male calf. Economics doesn't allow it.