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Epignosis
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 19:27 |
I think that Anglagaard could put out anything and people here would worship it.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 19:31 |
Replace Anglagard with Wilson or TMV and we may agree.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 19:34 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Replace Anglagard with Wilson or TMV and we may agree.  | I think that's true of Wilson as well.
TMV has had misses, that, to their credit, showed a level of diversity in their music. They were, after all, in the top ten this year.
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Horizons
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:03 |
Epignosis wrote:
I think that Anglagaard could put out anything and people here would worship it.
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Yeaaa..........
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Anthony H.
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:07 |
The "fanboyism" yell is nonsense. Yes, because if you don't like an album, anybody who does is obviously just a fanboy!
And I wonder why I don't participate with this site too much anymore.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:17 |
It's all a matter of taste people. Epignosis(Rob) has made it well known that he doesn't like Anglagard which is cool. I'm not a fan of Kansas either or ELP except for their debut. It's good we all have different tastes and opinions isn't it ?
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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Horizons
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:19 |
Anthony H. wrote:
The "fanboyism" yell is nonsense. Yes, because if you don't like an album, anybody who does is obviously just a fanboy!
And I wonder why I don't participate with this site too much anymore. |
I liked it, i was just surprised on how much attention and praise it got. Mreh.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:21 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Here's my take on the top 10 from the clips -
1 Viljans Oga - Anglagard: My first time sampling the band. Put that one my to get list.
2 English Electric Part One - Big Big Train: Already got one, verry nice.
3 Echolyn - Echolyn: Sampled this one a few months ago on Progstreaming. Already interested,
4 Banks of Eden - The Flower Kings: I've got one album already, still can't get into them.
5 The Death Defying Unicorn - Motorpsycho: I was expecting metal. Pleasantly surprised.
6 Felicite Thosz - Magma: I've sampled Magma before on this site. Still not interested.
7 Noctourniquet - The Mars Volta: I've sampled TMV on this site and wasn't impresses. This intrigues me. 8 Quickly Quickly Quickly - The Tea Club: Interesting. This one is at the bottom of the Progstreaming set, so won't be around much longer. I'm going to have to try out the whole album.
9 Storm Corrosion - Storm Corrosion: The first I heard of this was in a recent Steven Wilson interview. I was already curious. This is on my must get list now.
10 Clockwork Angels - Rush: I only have the albums with the Cygnuses in my collection and used to have a VHS of the Grace Under Pressure tour live. Of course I am familiar with more of their stuff it's just never been a high priority to add more albums for me. However I may have to get this one.
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I like what you did there Slarts
I haven't heard the Flower Kings or Mars Volta that were in the top ten but have the others. A good list though.
I personally didn't think Anglagard's new one was as good as their previous two but in time that may change. I still had it at number three in my list though.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:22 |
Anthony H. wrote:
The "fanboyism" yell is nonsense. Yes, because if you don't like an album, anybody who does is obviously just a fanboy!
And I wonder why I don't participate with this site too much anymore. | That isn't what I said at all. Please read my post again.
I said, and I quote:
"I think that Anglagaard could put out anything and people here would worship it."
Not nearly the same thing.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:22 |
Horizons wrote:
Anthony H. wrote:
The "fanboyism" yell is nonsense. Yes, because if you don't like an album, anybody who does is obviously just a fanboy!
And I wonder why I don't participate with this site too much anymore. |
I liked it, i was just surprised on how much attention and praise it got. Mreh. |
The audio sample that Andy put up, is that sort of the style of the whole Mars Volta album ? Cause i really liked that tune.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Anthony H.
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:26 |
Epignosis wrote:
Anthony H. wrote:
The "fanboyism" yell is nonsense. Yes, because if you don't like an album, anybody who does is obviously just a fanboy!
And I wonder why I don't participate with this site too much anymore. |
That isn't what I said at all. Please read my post again.
I said, and I quote:
"I think that Anglagaard could put out anything and people here would worship it."
Not nearly the same thing.
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I know, Rob. I was more responding to a few earlier posts.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:32 |
Mellotron Storm wrote:
I personally didn't think Anglagard's new one was as good as their previous two but in time that may change. I still had it at number three in my list though. |
In my opinion, although it's not a bad album, I can't help but feel the same way about the new Anglagard album as you, John. For me it's a little too fragmented, and the instrumental melodies are not quite as memorable. There's also not as many reprises/repeated passages as on their previous albums, which helped them have a real flow. Still a fine album, but then you put on either `Hybris' and `Epilog' and it shows up how much better than the newie they are!
I think I sort of had it in my top 10 list for a little while, but it very quickly dropped off....too many more exciting instrumental albums last year that were far superior to my ears!
Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - February 04 2013 at 21:38
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Andy Webb
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:44 |
Mellotron Storm wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Anthony H. wrote:
The "fanboyism" yell is nonsense. Yes, because if you don't like an album, anybody who does is obviously just a fanboy!
And I wonder why I don't participate with this site too much anymore. |
I liked it, i was just surprised on how much attention and praise it got. Mreh. |
The audio sample that Andy put up, is that sort of the style of the whole Mars Volta album ? Cause i really liked that tune. |
For the most part, yes. Very experimental electro-rock with latin vibes. I liked the album, but I still prefer their heavier material.
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Horizons
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:53 |
Synth-Prog yo.
Very good stuff, Noctourniquet should be looked into.
Edited by Horizons - February 04 2013 at 20:59
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 21:32 |
Anthony H. wrote:
The "fanboyism" yell is nonsense. Yes, because if you don't like an album, anybody who does is obviously just a fanboy!
And I wonder why I don't participate with this site too much anymore. |
Why don't you participate? Because people have opinions? Perhaps it is nonsensical to get too serious about opinions.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 04:01 |
Mellotron Storm wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
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What's this one.... I love the old Italian fusion band , but neither ProgArchives nor Rate Your Music list if...
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Great work Andy   |
Hey Hugues i had to look this one up myself. The album's title is Perigeo and the band's name is Il Giardino Onrico. Yeah a little confusing. |
Doooh!!!! Of course... the album's name came first... 
However I still didn't find it under the letter "G  ".... but under the letter "I" 
Shouldn'ty it read Giardino Onirico, Il ??  
Edited by Sean Trane - February 05 2013 at 04:06
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Roland113
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 11:58 |
timothy leary wrote:
Thanks for putting this all together. Great format. Great job. As for the poll itself. The cadillac of fanboyism. Mention Steven Wilson and frost it with some Opeth. Storm Corrosion is a mediocre album at best. Rush must be good. Mars Volta, come on. The inclusion of popular bands with mediocre albums to the exclusion of less popular bands with great albums is a trademark of the collaborators poll. For any newbie the place to get an idea of an albums worth is the regular top 100 albums of the year. At least there the fanboyism does not try to justify itself
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timothy leary wrote:
Anthony H. wrote:
The "fanboyism" yell is nonsense. Yes, because if you don't like an album, anybody who does is obviously just a fanboy!
And I wonder why I don't participate with this site too much anymore. |
Why don't you participate? Because people have opinions? Perhaps it is nonsensical to get too serious about opinions. |
Ok Mr. Leary, you're kind of contradicting yourself here. In your first post, you've done your best to discredit every 'fanboy's' opinion. Then your second post you decry foul with the 'I'm allowed to have an opinion too' plea.
I believe that the concern is not that you have a different opinion than others, the problem is that you give the impression off that your opinion is more valid than others' opinion. Obviously many people on this site liked Storm Corrosion enough to include it in their top ten. Is your opinion more valid than every one of theirs?
Yes, it's nonsensical to get too serious about opinions but it's inconsiderate to elevate your own opinion over so many others.
Edited by Roland113 - February 05 2013 at 11:59
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 12:13 |
Where do you see me elevating my opinion over the herd. I put my opinion on a page with numerous other opinions. Actually I respect your opinion about my opinion. My opinion is not more valid than others but as I pointed out the people who make up the body have a more complete opinion than the collaborators poll and it says the album you mentioned is a 3.7 album after over 250 ratings. We could talk about the other two albums also but I won't bother. So don't make it about me. Who cares anyway in the long run.
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Roland113
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 12:44 |
Now when you put it that way, I see your point and don't take exception.
Your initial post raised my hackles with the negative connotation of 'the cadillac of fanboyism'. If it wasn't meant to be confrontational and derogatory towards anyone that liked the album then you were vastly misunderstood. . . .and not by me alone.
The only reason that I really care is that I really like this site and feel strongly that everyone's opinion is valid. If a fifteen year old kid comes on here and really likes Storm Corrosion, they're going to read your post and make the leap to 'liking this album is akin to sheep-like idol worship'. They're either not going to post for fear of being ridiculed or even worse, go somewhere else with a bad taste in their mouth. . . . and I'm just using Storm Corrosion as one example from your initial post. I didn't personally think it was very memorable either.
When you say it the second way, yeah, you've got a valid point there.
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 13:05 |
Last year at the Collab polls we had Opeth in the number 2 position of the year while an absolute masterpiece of prog rock, in the top 50 albums of all the history of prog rock was in 4th place. All I would say to a newbie, which I did say in my original post was the top 100 albums of the year is a better and more accurate opinion of an album's worth. That does not mean the Collab poll is not of value. The format of it is absolutely wonderful and I wish the top 100 albums of the year had such an awesome format. As one person said he believed such and such a band could release anything and people would go bonkers about it. I think that is true to a certain degree but I also think time is the great leveller. What is a masterpiece today may be run of the mill in the future.
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