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Points: 20696 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2013 at 15:24
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Right ... it's prog metal.
 
Name some of your favorite 'prog metal' bands so I can get a sense of who we are talking about.
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Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Not a big Hendrix fan myself.
... though there are a few tracks from him that I get a kick from every now and then.

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^ Right ... it's prog metal.
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Points: 20696 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2013 at 15:19
Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


it's simply not melodic most of the time but there are exceptions I suppose.

Well, I think that one just have to listen to that music closer, and then melodism would become much clearer. Sometimes it's not easy to start to listen to those kinds of music, but patience would make up everything.

For example, I consider Opeth amongst best melodists of our time, though they're playing pretty heavy death metal.
 
I don't really consder them 'death metal' ....and they do have some melodic songs especially the new cd which is more prog than metal.
I'm referring to the loud fast stuff with vocals like they have a bad throat infection ...imo that isn't even really prog.
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Points: 1534 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2013 at 12:08
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


it's simply not melodic most of the time but there are exceptions I suppose.

Well, I think that one just have to listen to that music closer, and then melodism would become much clearer. Sometimes it's not easy to start to listen to those kinds of music, but patience would make up everything.

For example, I consider Opeth amongst best melodists of our time, though they're playing pretty heavy death metal.
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I have no idea what 'bands prog fans generally like ' but while I like VDGG, I don't care for Hammill's vocals at all.
I don't care for most of the prog metal ,death metal , post metal exp or what have you stuff.....it's simply not melodic most of the time but there are exceptions I suppose.
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Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Not a big Hendrix fan myself.  Another band that a lot of prog fans seem to love but that I find almost intolerable is The Doors.  



Yeah, the doors didn't really make great albums, though they have some good songs.  They have a fantastic compilation called "Weird Scenes in the Gold Mine".....which manages to pull most of their best stuff together and sound like a proper album (unlike most compilations).   Unfortunately its on vinyl only. 
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Jazz Rock/Fusion including a chunk of Canterbury stuff (Soft Machine, Gong etc.)
Not very keen on Van der Graaf Generator.
Magma. Nah.
A lot of the modern symph prog bands.
Porcupine Tree.
Queen.
Hendrix.

Lots of other offenses, but those are the worst Big smile.


I'm with you on the Queen and Hendrix Linus, and on older PT. 

I do like my Pawn Hearts though.


And I do like Hammill solo, so that's quite a mystery LOL. I've wrestled a lot with Pawn Hearts. Think I gave it three stars in the end.
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Points: 8543 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2013 at 10:49
Not a big Hendrix fan myself.  Another band that a lot of prog fans seem to love but that I find almost intolerable is The Doors.  
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Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Jazz Rock/Fusion including a chunk of Canterbury stuff (Soft Machine, Gong etc.)
Not very keen on Van der Graaf Generator.
Magma. Nah.
A lot of the modern symph prog bands.
Porcupine Tree.
Queen.
Hendrix.

Lots of other offenses, but those are the worst Big smile.


I'm with you on the Queen and Hendrix Linus, and on older PT. 

I do like my Pawn Hearts though.
...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Jazz Rock/Fusion including a chunk of Canterbury stuff (Soft Machine, Gong etc.)
Not very keen on Van der Graaf Generator.
Magma. Nah.
A lot of the modern symph prog bands.
Porcupine Tree.
Queen.
Hendrix.

Lots of other offenses, but those are the worst Big smile.


Edited by LinusW - March 16 2013 at 10:38
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:




Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:


Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Camel
Caravan
Can
Faust
Neu!
Bowie

sorry
Camel, come on! it's Camel!
I can tolerate a little bit of Camel, just before going to sleep...Wink

But you can't really fault a fine rebuttal such as "Camel, come on! It's Camel!"...
HAHA, music is subjective and it has different meanings to everYone. I find Camel to be an excellent band!

I tried the album with Lady Fantasy, and could not get anywhere with it, sorry. The experience turned me off the band, unfortunately
The only one I don't like on that list is Bowie.
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For me:

Dream Theater (hate 'em)
Kansas
Porcupine Tree (I don't mind some of their stuff, but for the most part I don't really get whats so great about them)
Marillion
IQ
Spock's Beard
Queen
Liquid Tension Experiment
Transatlantic
Tangerine Dream
Popol Vuh
Mahavishnu Orchestra
 
That's all I can think of now, there's gotta be alot more though
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Points: 3150 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2013 at 00:36
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

What is interesting is progmetaller2112 has nothing to say of some other infinitely more interesting acts (than Camel) in that list, namely, Can, Faust, Neu!.  


What is interesing is rogerthat. I don't like Can,Faust, Neu. Everyone has different opinions on music Wink


Sure.  Which is why we don't go "Come on, Can/Faust/Neu" over you.  There is nothing astonishing about not being fond of Camel. 

Just like any other band! Wink Krautrock and Ambient is not my thing


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - March 16 2013 at 00:37
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Points: 9869 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2013 at 00:34
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

What is interesting is progmetaller2112 has nothing to say of some other infinitely more interesting acts (than Camel) in that list, namely, Can, Faust, Neu!.  


What is interesing is rogerthat. I don't like Can,Faust, Neu. Everyone has different opinions on music Wink


Sure.  Which is why we don't go "Come on, Can/Faust/Neu" over you.  There is nothing astonishing about not being fond of Camel. 
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2013 at 00:33
^ What about Popol Vuh, the Düül, Tangies, and such?
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

What is interesting is progmetaller2112 has nothing to say of some other infinitely more interesting acts (than Camel) in that list, namely, Can, Faust, Neu!.  


What is interesing is rogerthat. I don't like Can,Faust, Neu. Everyone has different opinions on music Wink


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - March 16 2013 at 00:34
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What is interesting is progmetaller2112 has nothing to say of some other infinitely more interesting acts (than Camel) in that list, namely, Can, Faust, Neu!.  
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Points: 8819 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2013 at 09:42
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:




Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:


Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Camel
Caravan
Can
Faust
Neu!
Bowie

sorry
Camel, come on! it's Camel!
I can tolerate a little bit of Camel, just before going to sleep...Wink

But you can't really fault a fine rebuttal such as "Camel, come on! It's Camel!"...
HAHA, music is subjective and it has different meanings to everYone. I find Camel to be an excellent band!

I tried the album with Lady Fantasy, and could not get anywhere with it, sorry. The experience turned me off the band, unfortunately
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