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Smurph
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:53 |
OH man I forgot about Area and Il Balletto Di Bronzo!!!!!
But... what really is interesting is the life of the singer from Area. Anyone interested in their music should check it out. He is actually one of the best vocalist to ever have existed. He literally studied on a higher plane of intellectual ideas when it came to the use of his voice.
Anyone who thinks Mike Patton is great needs only to check out the singer from Area to find out what probably is one of his biggest inspirations.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:48 |
Dean wrote:
I think there are two measures of adventurous when it comes to music - there are those albums that are adventurous when you look back on them - the really wacky out-there ones that will be weird and bold and daring no matter when you hear them - Ys (Il Balletto di Bronzo, naturally), Pawn Hearts and Of Natural History will fit into that category for me in ways that so many well meaning albums never will. And there are those albums that are adventurous when you look on them for the first time, that when you've played them through once you mutter under your breath "What. The. F---. Was. That..."
Of course many of those albums may remain like that, and become one of those "looking back" adventurous albums, but other's don't - they are the ones that turned your head and you can never turn it back, and they're never quite as adventurous after repeated plays and some, after a long interval looking back on them leave you wondering what all the fuss was about. Tool's Undertow is an example of one such album for me - a jaw-drop album that seemed quite normal by the time Aenima was released and then by Lateralus and 10000 Days I'd almost forgotten how good it was - but when I first heard it - "W.T.F.W.T...". Other albums that fit into this category would be Tubby Bells, In Search Of The Lost Chord, A Farewell To Kings, Meddle, In The Region Of The Summer Stars and Future Days.
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Very nice post Dean. I know exactly what you mean. I remember buying Undertow back when it was first released - sporting a somewhat similar reaction as the one you had. Prison sex and Bottom may have done the trick. It's not that I didn't listen to aggressive music at the time either, I heard Ulver, Obituary, Neurosis, Slayer stuff like that - Tool were just completely different sounding. Today I know Undertow like the back of my hand, and while I think it's one of their best(maybe their very best actually), it's not half as adventurous as what came after. Ys and Pawn Hearts will always stay truly adventurous in my mind as well. Just like the Atom Heart Mother Suite will.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:41 |
Area are `adventurous', Dave?! More like `bat s**t freaking insane'!!
That band takes a lot of time to get your head around, but well worth it in the end. They that can take a lifetime to truly appreciate!
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:36 |
Smurph wrote:
You know, we haven't touched on Italian Prog.
Banco del mutuo socorso simply for the fact that they rocked as hard as anyone, but they released a concept album about Darwin, and then a few albums later a concept about about Jesus Christ. That's some adventure. |
Yo Smurph!
If you dig a little Italian cuisine in your earways, then you should probably check out AREA. Talk about adventurous  These guys came up with something you can vaguely describe as circus fusion with electronics and avantguarde trickery frequently popping by. Singer Demitrio Stratos is both the most mad and versatile you'll ever come across. He yodles as well 
These two are perhaps the most "out there" they ever made:
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:34 |
I think there are two measures of adventurous when it comes to music - there are those albums that are adventurous when you look back on them - the really wacky out-there ones that will be weird and bold and daring no matter when you hear them - Ys (Il Balletto di Bronzo, naturally), Pawn Hearts and Of Natural History will fit into that category for me in ways that so many well meaning albums never will. And there are those albums that are adventurous when you look on them for the first time, that when you've played them through once you mutter under your breath "What. The. F---. Was. That..."
Of course many of those albums may remain like that, and become one of those "looking back" adventurous albums, but other's don't - they are the ones that turned your head and you can never turn it back, and they're never quite as adventurous after repeated plays and some, after a long interval looking back on them leave you wondering what all the fuss was about. Tool's Undertow is an example of one such album for me - a jaw-drop album that seemed quite normal by the time Aenima was released and then by Lateralus and 10000 Days I'd almost forgotten how good it was - but when I first heard it - "W.T.F.W.T...". Other albums that fit into this category would be Tubby Bells, In Search Of The Lost Chord, A Farewell To Kings, Meddle, In The Region Of The Summer Stars and Future Days.
(I hope that all makes sense...)
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:05 |
I think all 3 Wetton period KC lp's are 'adventurous'. Diagonal Birds and Buildings Deluge Grandeur French TV Beardfish
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 15:58 |
Haven't seen a mention of VdGG here. While not my favorite, Pawn Hearts is an adventurous album.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 14:41 |
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Smurph wrote:
You know, we haven't touched on Italian Prog.
Banco del mutuo socorso simply for the fact that they rocked as hard as anyone, but they released a concept album about Darwin, and then a few albums later a concept about about Jesus Christ. That's some adventure. |
Oh no, I've let my side down, Smurph!
You make some good recommendations, I'd go as far as adding that even the self titled Banco debut album is an adventure all on it's own! So many directions, so many dazzling ideas, so much cracking energy. I like the almost sinister air of menace about it, and all of those lovely gothic/classical sections. What an album!  |
Very true! There is something truly sinister about the albums Banco released. I find that is what attracted me to them most of all.
Maybe they were funded by the mob? haha
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 13:55 |
Smurph wrote:
You know, we haven't touched on Italian Prog.
Banco del mutuo socorso simply for the fact that they rocked as hard as anyone, but they released a concept album about Darwin, and then a few albums later a concept about about Jesus Christ. That's some adventure. |
Oh no, I've let my side down, Smurph!
You make some good recommendations, I'd go as far as adding that even the self titled Banco debut album is an adventure all on it's own! So many directions, so many dazzling ideas, so much cracking energy. I like the almost sinister air of menace about it, and all of those lovely gothic/classical sections. What an album!
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 13:49 |
You know, we haven't touched on Italian Prog.
Banco del mutuo socorso simply for the fact that they rocked as hard as anyone, but they released a concept album about Darwin, and then a few albums later a concept about about Jesus Christ. That's some adventure.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 13:39 |
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For me, the most adventurous prog albums have come with in the form of 'conceptual' music.
Queensr˙che: Operation Mindcrime---The seedy underbelly of terrorist actions and manipulations to recruit a young man to do horrible things in order to creat chaos and political revolutions. Always a fun spin. Don't ever trust a needle!! Lol |
Haven't listened to that one in aaaaaaages, my friend! Damn good album.
John's a happy man for $25, but what exactly does he get for his money again??!
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 13:34 |
For me, the most adventurous prog albums have come with in the form of 'conceptual' music.
To list a few....
Saviour Machine: The legend trilogy--with out a doubt this is a big one for me. It's an entire musical, dark metal opera about the book of revelations in the bible. Dark, twisted and flat out interesting considering it's from Satan's angle of how he and his armies fought against god....war against the heavens anyone?
AYREON: The Human Equation-- this is an album that I find to be a grand adventure. A man lies in a comma after a brutal car crash and in order to get out of that coma he must challenge all the assets of his mind....age, reason, love, hate, pain...etc. each emotion is a character for crying out loud! Pretty awesome
Queensr˙che: Operation Mindcrime---The seedy underbelly of terrorist actions and manipulations to recruit a young man to do horrible things in order to creat chaos and political revolutions. Always a fun spin. Don't ever trust a needle!! Lol
Beyond Twilight: Section x---this is thee most bizzare concept album I've ever listened to, but incredibly adventurous.
The album deals with subject matter that of Human cloning, brain mapping and unimaginable torture immagery of the soul. It's a reckless and dark album fueled by an incredible plot.
Savatage: Streets: A Rock Opera--- about a man, D.T Jesus who goes through a typical rise and fall story that is closely linked to fame, talent and drugs.
Vangelis: Blade Runner Soundtrack-- created images of a futuristic society. Nuff said. :)
Tangerine Dream--Hyperborea. For me, these instrumentals take me on a journey around the world. Beautiful stuff. Not conceptual of course. :)
Anyway. There are many more but this list I think can be at the top of my adventure world for now.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:47 |
Uhh how could I forget about Esperanto's wonderfully eccentric Danse Macabre? This though may fall under the category of adventurous ways of employing the violin, because this album definitely has some of the most incredible violin playing on it. Somewhere between Chris Karrer from ADll and Jean Luc Ponty and then not really. Popped into a zany mix of folk music on speed where the violin mimics the style of Keith Emerson.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:41 |
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:35 |
Like I said at the start of the thread, there are really no "rights" and "wrongs" here, and one person's adventurous music just may fall under yawn to others. Adventurous can be applied to any aspect of the band, music, circumstances of recording, the instruments being used - whatever really. You make up the rules, I'm just along for the ride 
Anyway, I can just imagine getting home to my turntable anno 1973 popping on In a Glass House I think it must've been quite the experience. Who else sounded like this? No one, literally.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:09 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Musically I think there are many albums that reach the same heights of adventurism as GG, and there are also numerous of occasions where bands didn't get to release their material, because of it being too weird/out there/classical/raw/insert your own. That's why we've seen so many issues of "long lost albums" that were never released.
But if we're talking about adventurous in terms of believing in oneself and sticking to ones guns in the face of adversity, then how about Polish band SBB who effectively were outlawed for playing prog under a communist rule? These guys faced jail, if they ever got caught.
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Yes I really have to concur with you on this. If a band risks their life for their music then you have to say that this is more adventurous than ANYTHING GG put out.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:03 |
Musically I think there are many albums that reach the same heights of adventurism as GG, and there are also numerous of occasions where bands didn't get to release their material, because of it being too weird/out there/classical/raw/insert your own. That's why we've seen so many issues of "long lost albums" that were never released at the time of their conception.
But if we're talking about adventurous in terms of believing in oneself and sticking to ones guns in the face of adversity, then how about Polish band SBB who effectively were outlawed for playing prog under a communist rule? These guys faced jail, if they ever got caught.
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 05:53 |
Easily "In A Glass House" by Gentle Giant. Columbia rejected it as uncommercial and dumped it. The band stuck to its guns and released it on a relatively unknown label WWA. It is now a cult classic prog album. Can you name any other band and their album that approaches this degree of adventuresome?
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 05:41 |
zravkapt wrote:
Not mentioned yet:
Henry Cow - Unrest (especially the second side, which was studio-manipulated improvisations)
Art Zoyd - Les Espace Inequits (mixing their previous freak-out chamber prog stuff with synths and drum machines for the first time, creating some incredibly weird yet timeless music)
Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante (an insane album with unpredictable and challenging music combined with some weird and sometimes disturbing lyrical content, not something you want to listen to relaxing on a Sunday afternoon or whatever) |
I agree with your choices here. The first time I heard Unrest, I thought there was something wrong with my cd 
Some electronic albums that I think were extremely adventurous for the time they were recorded in:
Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri and Zeit Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht and Blackdance Igor Wakhevitch - Logos Heldon - Electronique Guerilla Terry Riley - In C Manuel Göttsching - Chessboard record Takehisa Kosugi - Catch Wave
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Posted: June 19 2013 at 00:14 |
A couple for me are:
Aphrodite's Child - 666 (such a unique album, and a forgotten gem) Carla Bley & Paul Haines - Escalator Over the Hill (who else would do a jazz opera spanning 3 LPs?)
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I consider drone metal to be progressive...
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