Chamber Prog

uduwudu wrote: Perhaps include Volapuk? I'm only familiar with the  Polyglot album and a ROIO from '83. But for an intimate chamber setting I thought this was great music.

Would like to add Gatto Marte ( http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=715 ) to this list of Chamber Prog artists.

BrufordFreak wrote: The problem I've seen here at PA is that if the music does not contain an element of "rock" in it (drum and bass rhythm sections, electrified instruments, ABACAB song constructs, etc., etc.) it generally gets rejected (e.g., Five-Storey Ensemble, Kronos Quartet, Mediaevel Baebes). However, since I've been a member I've seen more and more "rock" and "classic rock" or "prog fringe" bands being allowed in (Led Zeppelin, Queen, Bjork, etc.), I do not see why the Admin Team can't start bending more to the other side of prog--i.e. the more classical- and jazz-oriented fringes of prog--like "Chamber Prog" or "Neoclasical dark wave" or just neoclassical. Shout out to incredible Neoclassical/Chamber Prog bands Cicada (Taiwan), After Crying (Hungary), Five-Storey Ensemble (Belarus), and new AltrOck Francesco Zago/Paolo Botta/Elaine Di Falco project, Empty Days (Italia).  P.S. Great discussion thread!

I've always just thought of the rock element as one of the essential qualities of prog.  The term is short for "progressive rock," anyway.  An ensemble like the Kronos Quartet is obviously "progressive" in the literal sense but I've never felt as if it fit into the progressive rock genre.

On the same note, I've never understood the inclusion of Penguin Cafe Orchestra on this site.  Like some have already expressed, I like them but don't think of them as prog, mainly because of the absence of the rock element in their music.

dr wu23 wrote: Even after listening to the suggestions on this thread I still don't understand exactly what qualifies as 'chamber prog'....many of the bands listed sound nothing alike . Can some one give a concise definition ?

So beautiful and hipnotizing.

Edited by Svetonio - December 27 2013 at 03:04

schizoidman wrote:   ... North Sea Radio Orchestra....very, very nice stuff. Thanks.

Check out Siberian band Pikapika Teart, wonderful stuff:-

https://myspace.com/pikapikamusic

^Well, despite of Classical music traditions, almost all the modern pop & rock music in Russia is plainly terrible Honestly, you barely can imagine anything as bad as Russian pop. That's why I didn't expected a great prog band coming out here. So iamthemorning is rather an exception that a rule.

moshkito wrote: schizoidman wrote:  ...I assume you are referencing the "I Talk to the Wind" video. The melancholy of the song is timeless and beautiful. I thought the video shed light on the majestic music that is part of the whole creation.   I'm not criticizing the video, which is beautiful. But it would go better with David Parsons music about/on the Himalayas, for example. Or Guy and I on top of Gibraltar Peak in Santa Barbara, listening to a tape of Space Pirate Radio at midnight and hearing the wind hitting the sides of the mountains with a thud and roll .... something magickal that we do not understand or see or hear very well at all.   While it is important to illuminate people's visions, realizing they are different is the most important part.   The song itself was written as part of a reaction to a time and place that a lot of other music was all over it, except top ten and grossly out of it pop music, and bubble gum sh*t. What I hate to see, is the visual turn this song into some sort of new age bubble gum wrap for your children ,,, and ignore history.   I'm a writer. As much as the "intent" is not what I write for, I write what I see, and you end up creating/inventing "intents" in it, that I never EVER even thought or considered, I tend to think that it is really tough ... and difficult on the inside, when someone steals your vision to create something else. I guess you could say I don't like it, but I better start saying that the "vision" is not "mine" ... it's universal! The inevitable "City of Lost Children" ... how appropriate it is for today's view on things!   It was also important as a song for me, that it was discussing "listening" and "hearing" each other and it was doing so in a very peaceful and quiet way ... which was totally counter what was happening outside! When you add up all that stuff, the song is a lot better and stronger than we even considered or thought.   But, please, do not let it take away from that video. But I would have liked to see that video done with David Parsons work instead!

I understand that "I Talk to the Wind" is a song that has reached inside a lot of us over the years and touched a special part of ourselves. Our being. Our psychological and emotional make up. Its the only reason that explains it longevity. It's really that good!

You make good points about not wanting the song to be mere soundtrack muzak but a lot of the scenes from the video are quite amazing. I am not familiar with David Parsons work but will look into seeing some of it.

1969 was a helluva year in which certain music reacted to horrific events and, for those of us that were there, will always keep a part of those memories within the songs. The Stones "Gimme Shelter" is another one that carries a strong emotional connection to that era to me.

zravkapt wrote: I've always considered this one of the first 'chamber prog' songs and certainly an influence on AZ and UZ.