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AreYouHuman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2013 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 470 |
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A common feature of prog, the extended coda can most easily be traced back to the Beatles’ Hey Jude. (If anyone can name an earlier example, let’s hear it!)
Since I’ve never had any formal (or informal) musical training, those that do could probably describe it better, but to be a coda it has to be at the end of and distinct from the main part of the song, but still sound like a natural part of it. To be extended, it would need to go on for at least 2 minutes (IMO), and have some repetition but build to a crescendo or have enough variation within it to keep it from getting boring. I’ve found that a lot of tracks that have them tend to be favorites of mine: Ange – Au-Delà du Délire Kansas – Incomudro—Hymn to the Atman Kansas – Peaceful and Warm Esperanto – Gypsy Esperanto – The Prisoner Esperanto – The Rape Flash – There No More Steve Hackett – Shadow of the Hierophant Genesis – The Fountain of Salmacis Renaissance – Ashes Are Burning Caravan – Can You Hear Me National Health – Elephants Focus – Focus (Instrumental) Focus – Carnival Fugue Supertramp – Crime of the Century Stackridge – Teatime Strawbs – Down by the Sea Strawbs – No Return Quantum Jump – Something at the Bottom of the Sea Quantum Jump – Love Crossed (Like Vines in Our Eyes) Greenslade – Joie de Vivre Greenslade – Spirit of the Dance Yes – Starship Trooper Rare Bird – Epic Forest Roxy Music – In Every Dream Home a Heartache Santana – Dance Sister Dance (Baila Mi Hermana) A couple of non-prog examples: Lynyrd Skynyrd – Free Bird Outlaws – Green Grass and High Tides The thread about songs that fade out reminded me of some songs that have codas that might be too short to be considered extended, but would have probably improved the song had they been longer: ELO – Shangri-La Formula 3 – Bambina Sbagliata |
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Lizard - King Crimson All of the Above - Transatlantic
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The "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" coda is much better than "Hey Jude"!!
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I'm not sure I remember every piece of music with this kind of description that I like, but since you mentioned Hackett's "Shadow of the Hierophan", yeah, that one might just as well be among my very favourite ones... it's just amazing and eerie.
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Listen to this man.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Edited by Svetonio - October 01 2014 at 04:26 |
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Good list OP. One of my favorite prog rock tools.
Shadow of the Hierophant is probably my favorite. Crime of the Century has the added nuance of that melancholy - reverbed out harmonica. She's so Heavy And I would count the outro of Zappa's Montana in this class. Starless? Somebody - Haken Nova Express - Nebelnest I am trying to find a couple progmetal examples. They tend to be shorter. Meshuggah - Sublevels (Thordendahl used the same outro on Special Defects) They also created very eerie undistorted outros on Catch 33 and Koloss. From outside prog: The Last Resort - Eagles Madman Across the Water - Elton John
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Yes - Starship Trooper
Caravan - Nine Feet Underground Supertramp - Child of Vision
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The Beatles did a lot in this sort of thing:
Hey Jude Day in the Life Strawberry Fields It's all Too Much All You Need is Love Hello Goodbye I am the Walrus I Want You |
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When I look down my list of favourite songs, a distinct Coda seems to be a very common feature. Here are 10 in my top 100.
Bowie - Cygnet Committee Alex Harvey - Anthem (though this is a reprise of the opening) Roxy Music - Song for Europe Edgar Broughton - Evening over Rooftops Yes - Starship Trooper King Crimson - Epitaph Pink Floyd - Saucerful of Secrets (especially the studi version) Bowie - 5 Years Rolling Stones - Time Waits for No One ELP - Lucky Man |
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AreYouHuman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2013 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 470 |
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^ Svetonio: Not sure if your choices would be ECs in the strictest sense, but they’re all songs I like so I’m not going to split hairs about it.
^ t.y.a.: Great choices, though I’m not familiar with all of them. You’re right about the Beatles, though Hey Jude is considered the first that’s actually extended. Again, not splitting hairs. Some more goods: PFM – Have Your Cake and Beat It Le Orme – Fine di un Viaggio Anthony Phillips – The Geese and the Ghost Anthony Phillips – Which Way the Wind Blows Barclay James Harvest – May Day Barclay James Harvest – Paper Wings U.K. – The Only Thing She Needs Van Der Graaf Generator – Scorched Earth Vangelis – To the Unknown Man Strawbs – Lay a Little Light on Me/Hero’s Theme King Crimson – In the Wake of Poseidon Robert Wyatt – Sea Song David Bowie – Memory of a Free Festival Babe Ruth – The Runaways Armageddon – Last Stand Before Kevin Ayers – The Confessions of Dr. Dream A few non-progs: Carpenters – Goodbye to Love Eagles – The Last Resort. That’s what makes it my fave from Hotel California. James Gang (w/ Tommy Bolin) – Mystery Rod Stewart – Every Picture Tells a Story Savoy Brown – Hellbound Train Grand Funk Railroad – Closer to Home (I’m Your Captain) Edited by AreYouHuman - October 02 2014 at 18:07 |
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First thing that came to mind:
Genesis - Return Of The Giant Hogweed
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Michael678 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2466 |
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ummmmmmmm..... does The Cinema Show count here??
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AreYouHuman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2013 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 470 |
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I don’t think there are hard-and-fast rules on this, so I don’t see why not, even though it segues into Aisle of Plenty. A few more goods: Procol Harum – Robert’s Box Beach Boys -- Cabinessence Beach Boys – Surf’s Up Chicago – Beginnings Dire Straits – Telegraph Road Edited by AreYouHuman - October 02 2014 at 23:34 |
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ELP - Aquatarkus
may be some debate whether that one counts I guess...
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I only want to say that Mike Rutherford's guitar work was economically excellent in Second Home By the Sea.
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AreYouHuman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2013 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 470 |
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Speaking of Mike Rutherford, there was a track from the sessions for “Smallcreep’s Day”, Compression, which was a B-side, that had a terrific EC.
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What about Spinning Wheel by Blood, Sweat & Tears? |
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Michael678 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2466 |
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yeah, that makes sense. there's also (In) The Court of the Crimson King (who celebrated a 45th birthday along with the rest of the album yesterday!) that i think wasn't mentioned yet, but of course Epitaph, Starship Trooper, the like. and for non-prog, Free Bird, Green Grass and High Tides (pretty much a knock off of Free Bird with an additional guitar solo but its still great to me), Isn't It a Pity (Version One), etc. UPDATE: forgot to mention Crime of the Century! i mean, goddamn that was cool....
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