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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17568 |
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As a proud knee jerk reactionary, I really have no problem with it Max if you are willing to give us the on/off switch for Reviewers. That would allow everyone to tailor their experience and allow Reviewers to have some choice in the matter.
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4077 |
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I will monitor / moderate alone at first and if we like it and it's popular I can add moderator to help.
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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No harm in seeing how it pans out. It might even generate better written reviews. Far too many knee jerk reactionaries round here pandering to the anticipated actions of fanboy idiots or trying to second guess trolls.
Even if it does go 'teats skywards' everything should be reversible in software. |
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Smurph ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 11 2012 Location: Columbus&NYC Status: Offline Points: 3167 |
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Yea some people don't like to get involved in forums. Personally I like the idea. If some sort of flame war starts the reviewer should always be capable of turning off the comments though.
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Windhawk ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401 |
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Personally I'm in favor of this. It makes interacting with the presumed reading audience easier, basically, and for me that is a positive addition. If it will be used, apart from on the most popular albums, is another case entirely I guess. But it is a proven success story outside of music sites, that leads to if not more traffic then at least invites to more involvement. That's all good in my book.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17568 |
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My concerns aren't so much about trolling as just the cheapening of the
review section to the clutter shown in Max example. It adds nothing of
value. It only detracts from the reviewers presentation and work.
It's the effect you get at news sites, where people joke that they
pretty much skim the news story to get to the comments.
My opinion is that our reviews are something kinda special and should be spared the social media clutter effect. Don't we have enough outlets out there for that kind of thing? |
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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Then yes, set the feature for users to be off. Make the feature public, and it'll catch on. For those unaware, it won't affect them - for those that review enough and care enough or actually visit the forum will learn of the new feature and then be able to make the decision.
Now to Jim. I disagree about the active forum. I've brought this thought of mine to a thread before, but I just see the majority of the users here remain stagnant. Some of the reviews we see on the front page are by users that haven't posted here. Even the thread that shows appreciation towards reviews here is posted in by the same small group, people just don't post on the forums or know about/ or how to find the thread. Sure, there is a rogue post there every so often but I think by having a social aspect of PA that isn't connected to having a forum presence could be beneficial. I think that there can be ways to make sure trolling or strong harassment isn't a part of this socializing.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4077 |
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BY USER, it would work for the current and past reviews, indeed.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17568 |
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Ooofta....yeah, this confirms my belief that it's not a good feature for a review site. All of that clutter just detracts from the reviewers efforts....the review becomes overtaken really. No offense intended Max, but I don't think we need this at PA. We have an active forum for people who want to discuss every aspect of music and reviews. |
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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Is the function on by review or by user? If it is by user wouldn't having the function on/off affect prior posted reviews?
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4077 |
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Check the kind of comments on MMA
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4077 |
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Yes !!!!! This might work ![]() This would be a more "progressive" approach to this new feature ;-) How do I handle the 200,000 reviews already on the site ? turned-off by default ?
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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I can finally tell everyone who gives Hand.Cannot.Erase 5 stars that they are wrong.
Excellent...
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17568 |
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Max, is there no way for individual reviewers to have a button to turn the feature "on/off"? That would allow those reviewers who like the idea to have it, and those who don't can shut it off.
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4077 |
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I understand.
I was hoping that reviewers would get positive comments to encourage them and congratulate them. I will re-think my strategy and get back to you, and remove the new system Tx for sharing |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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you are asking if your reviewers would like to be castrated or simply eat a .45 slug. One is messy.. the other quick and clean.
the result is the same. You discourage reviewers who invest a helluva lot of time.. sh*t man.. they invest theirselves in the reviews. The least the site could do is have the courtesy to let them have their say and not have to defend their reviews. You are no interet babe M@X... who the hell is going to use this feature.. those pissed off by reviews that either trash or don't show an album the proper love. to repeat .. what is the benefit to this? Other than one person.. I've read of no interest in this idea.. and damn lot of opposition to it. You have the mechanisms already in place to praise (not to mention PROMOTE) good reviewers.. and the mechanism to take bad reviews. Reviews not judged to be of the quality the site would like to see.. removed from the site. my happy two cents as alwasys!! Edited by micky - March 07 2015 at 13:09 |
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4077 |
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I understand... on MetalMusicArchives.com and JazzMusicArchives.com it's quite controllable (but it does not use the Facebook login though, it use the internal login forum login)
Would this work better than open Facebook login ?
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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I'll balance it with the short winded. Bad idea man. Check to see what happened to ESPN when they went to Facebook comments. Most sane, and umm.. mature people now stay away. Kiddies and trolls man. Lots of potential problems and ZERO addition to the site. We have a forum to discuss reviews, and threads to spotlight positive AND negative reviews. |
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SouthSideoftheSky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Symphonic Team Joined: June 29 2008 Location: Close To The... Status: Offline Points: 1965 |
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My thoughts exactly. |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24439 |
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I cannot but wholeheartedly agree with Jim and Steve. As Facebook is a breeding ground for trolls of every kind, I am afraid this new feature might soon turn into a free-for-all, and turn quite a few people off reviewing. Blogs can also attract nasty comments, but at least the owner is able to delete anything offensive.
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